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Dragon: Flakpanzer T-34rPosted: Friday, March 11, 2016 - 01:13 AM UTC
I thought I had seen a Flakpanzer T-34r from Dragon Models in the past, but I have now. Dragon models has announced a smart kit offering of the Flakpanzer T-34r.
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Red_Tory
Canada
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Posted: Friday, March 11, 2016 - 02:03 AM UTC
We have seen this before: http://dragonusaonline.com/item_detail.aspx?ItemCode=CHC6569
Unreality
Georgia, United States
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Posted: Friday, March 11, 2016 - 02:09 AM UTC
So to confirm, this is everything the White Box had right?
Cantstopbuyingkits
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Posted: Friday, March 11, 2016 - 03:21 AM UTC
Probably just the CH kit with nothing new for more money. I don't need this.
ULIX-VM
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Posted: Friday, March 11, 2016 - 03:35 AM UTC
THE GERMAN DOING SIMILAR OF THE RUSSIANS THAT MODIFIED MILITARY EQUIPMENT FOR OWN GOAL(WIN A WAR).
C_JACQUEMONT
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Posted: Friday, March 11, 2016 - 03:38 AM UTC
I hope they changed something,they always vowed the CyberHobby white box kits were exclusive?
panzerbob01
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Posted: Friday, March 11, 2016 - 04:08 AM UTC
As I understand things, the Cyber Hobby boutique white-box limited line has gone the way of the Dodo. We are now seeing those one-offs and "special" kits being released as SmartKit items.
Mostly, I think of it as a good thing - this means that more modelers will get a chance to get those previously rare kits and subjects, and yes, the Dragon company will make more money from those molds.
The CH white-box stuff was really marketed more to kit-collectors than to modelers who wanted to build the stuff. The limited supply and exclusivity mostly served to create a vibrant second-hand kit trade, but left many of us frustrated because we might want to build that item too, but its price got inflated by collector demand.
The down side of this re-releasing of CH WB kits as Dragon SmartKits is that probably the re-releases will often come out lacking some of the goodies and features of the originals. I'm thinking about less PE, less optional parts, maybe swapping in DS for MagicTracks, losing metal barrels, etc. But they'll hit the shelves at the new, higher prices. Some good, some bad, mostly same-oh same-oh, really!
Bob
Mostly, I think of it as a good thing - this means that more modelers will get a chance to get those previously rare kits and subjects, and yes, the Dragon company will make more money from those molds.
The CH white-box stuff was really marketed more to kit-collectors than to modelers who wanted to build the stuff. The limited supply and exclusivity mostly served to create a vibrant second-hand kit trade, but left many of us frustrated because we might want to build that item too, but its price got inflated by collector demand.
The down side of this re-releasing of CH WB kits as Dragon SmartKits is that probably the re-releases will often come out lacking some of the goodies and features of the originals. I'm thinking about less PE, less optional parts, maybe swapping in DS for MagicTracks, losing metal barrels, etc. But they'll hit the shelves at the new, higher prices. Some good, some bad, mostly same-oh same-oh, really!
Bob
Posted: Friday, March 11, 2016 - 04:35 AM UTC
This is welcome news for me -- having missed out on CH white boxes releases. My first thought was that this would be sporting the much-maligned DS tracks -- but reading thru it says Magic Tracks, so this is plus points for me. Too bad DML didn't do the same for the recent Pz IV mit 88. Now the final question is, how much
C_JACQUEMONT
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Posted: Friday, March 11, 2016 - 05:33 AM UTC
So basically they lied to their customers? Or they don't care to keep their word?
Well I guess it's alright as long as they're making money.
Well I guess it's alright as long as they're making money.
Cantstopbuyingkits
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Posted: Friday, March 11, 2016 - 05:38 AM UTC
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My first thought was that this would be sporting the much-maligned DS tracks -- but reading thru it says Magic Tracks, so this is plus points for me. Too bad DML didn't do the same for the recent Pz IV mit 88.|
Unlike their Pz4s Dragon has never tooled a set of DS tracks for the T-34. I don't think you can do the plate type of the tank with with a single piece belt.
varanusk
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Posted: Friday, March 11, 2016 - 06:41 AM UTC
Very good news, I love this vehicle. In fact I had a Flakvierling and a T-34 to build it myself before it was released as CH...
I find curious the text on Anthony's link:
Fortunately for me it was not true. But it is not good for anyone's reputation to go back on their word
I find curious the text on Anthony's link:
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Cyber-Hobby items will have one production run only and there will NOT be a reproduction of this item. In another words, once it is sold out it will be gone forever!
Fortunately for me it was not true. But it is not good for anyone's reputation to go back on their word
dhines
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Posted: Friday, March 11, 2016 - 07:08 AM UTC
I wonder how accurate this kit is compared to the original one from Abt.653. I have only ever seen 1 grainy pic. Would like to know b4 I shell out the high cost of this kit.
james-dean
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Posted: Friday, March 11, 2016 - 07:30 AM UTC
oh... good new is that they not supply the D.S track this time
Posted: Friday, March 11, 2016 - 08:21 AM UTC
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I wonder how accurate this kit is compared to the original one from Abt.653. I have only ever seen 1 grainy pic. Would like to know b4 I shell out the high cost of this kit.
Here are a few pics http://beutepanzer.ru/Beutepanzer/su/t-34/t-34flak/t-34-flak.htm. Though I recall reading before that the first one with the crew on top was doctored -- .
easyco69
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Posted: Saturday, March 12, 2016 - 07:04 PM UTC
me wants 1.
I wonder how close it is to the whitebox version?
I wonder how close it is to the whitebox version?
bilbobee
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Posted: Saturday, March 12, 2016 - 07:12 PM UTC
MAGIC TRACKS.....I must be in tank heaven?