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Hull machine gun plug Panther G tank?
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Posted: Sunday, March 13, 2016 - 10:05 PM UTC
Part 1 ~ I don't know what it's called but this chain mounted plug when the bow machine gun is not being used:



Photo credit from:

http://missing-lynx.com/gallery/german/panthergdb_1.html


Now part 2 of my question... does anyone have any detailed images of the real thing or where to read up on this?



Thanks for any help!!!





Jeff
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Posted: Sunday, March 13, 2016 - 10:43 PM UTC
never seen it ,
doubt you'd want that thing swinging around the barrel .

If there was such a thing , I doubt it'd be chained there


EDIT -- seems to be one on that world famous pic of the G with the infrared system ....
EDIT Edit -- no mention in Spielberger book .
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Posted: Sunday, March 13, 2016 - 10:56 PM UTC
Hi Jeff,

Photo of the actual plug in use....it is real.



Cheers,
Joe
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Posted: Sunday, March 13, 2016 - 11:01 PM UTC
Oh, thanks Joe! I knew it was real I just couldn't find ANY actual images of it. Any clue as to what it's called?

This is a beautiful start... at least I know what it looks like when in place.

Now just what the rest of it looks like but I will continue looking!





Jeff
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Posted: Sunday, March 13, 2016 - 11:15 PM UTC
Now I'm interested if it's for fording or just weather .
I'm surprised there is no text concerning it in Spielberger's book
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Posted: Sunday, March 13, 2016 - 11:22 PM UTC
... this is the pic I was referring to :

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Posted: Sunday, March 13, 2016 - 11:26 PM UTC
Considering how stripped down that particular tank is, I have to wonder if the plug is something that was only present/used on vehicles at the factory or in rear-area maintenance depots, or otherwise in transit to/from the operational unit.

Also not completely convinced that's a chain and not just a piece of string. Could be either from that photo.

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Posted: Sunday, March 13, 2016 - 11:32 PM UTC
What are they loading into the tank in Joe's picture ?

Radio equipment , yeah ?


......... and is that a female face peaking out of the hatch ?
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Posted: Sunday, March 13, 2016 - 11:45 PM UTC
Hi guys,

Here is a close up of the plug and chain.



Cheers,
Joe
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Posted: Monday, March 14, 2016 - 12:37 AM UTC
Thanks Joe! Beautiful! Anymore you can find I'd appreciate as I'll owe ya buddy!

Pictures ARE worth a thousand guesses, huh. I knew it was a chain anyway.




Jeff
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Posted: Monday, March 14, 2016 - 01:00 AM UTC
I did find that the correct verbiage for this is a MG ball mount plug.

Now to do more searches under that title.

If I could only see the detail of how the chain is attached I think I can manage the rest. Joes help has been tremendous!!!





Jeff
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Posted: Monday, March 14, 2016 - 03:00 AM UTC
Hi Jeff,

Go here to Ken's Panther build.....excellent detail photos of the plug and mounting method.

http://www.armortek.co.uk/Forum3b/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=1121&p=41611

Cheers,
Joe

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Posted: Monday, March 14, 2016 - 03:46 AM UTC
Totally indebted to you Joe!

I am finishing up an RC 1/16 Tamiya Late Production Panther G and installed the hull MG flash in the mantlet, so this "plug in" will come in handy since I don't want to splice two flash units together.

So now I know how to replicate one.





Jeff
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Posted: Monday, March 14, 2016 - 03:53 AM UTC
What's equally interesting in the 3rd pic (the Houffalize Panther) of Kent Wiik's build is the vestiges of original color. The dark yellow looks more like a light creamy yellow.
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Posted: Monday, March 14, 2016 - 05:46 AM UTC
I can see why these are so rare. Hanging off that little chain it would be easy to snap off and lose in battle.

A similar case would be the spare tire retaining rod that secures the spare tire in the back of VW buses from 1968-1979. Small and easy to misplace.
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