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Posted: Monday, March 14, 2016 - 08:50 PM UTC
I just noticed that I am not able to edit or delete a comment I made. I thought we could do that previously. I am logged in, so did things change or am I being stupid and missing something?
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Posted: Monday, March 14, 2016 - 08:51 PM UTC
OK, after I posted this, I see the Delete and Edit options here. I went to the AFV thread and it doesn't show there...what gives?
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Posted: Monday, March 14, 2016 - 09:09 PM UTC
A member on the site some time ago now got upset and started deleting all of his posts from the site; over 1000 I believe. this caused a lot of content on the network to look very odd, and so Jim limited the amount of time in which a post could be edited or deleted. As you have correctly pointed it this does not apply to all areas of the network.
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Posted: Monday, March 14, 2016 - 09:14 PM UTC

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A member on the site some time ago now got upset and started deleting all of his posts from the site; over 1000 I believe. this caused a lot of content on the network to look very odd, and so Jim limited the amount of time in which a post could be edited or deleted. As you have correctly pointed it this does not apply to all areas of the network.

Ah, OK- thanks. I thought maybe I was being technologically illiterate.
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Posted: Monday, March 14, 2016 - 09:18 PM UTC
Although I understand the reason why this decision was made, I think the amount of time t oedit posts is too limited.

Could it be possible to extend it a bit?
TIA

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Posted: Monday, March 14, 2016 - 09:24 PM UTC

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Although I understand the reason why this decision was made, I think the amount of time t oedit posts is too limited.

Could it be possible to extend it a bit?
TIA

Olivier

or leave the edit and limit the delete function?
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Posted: Monday, March 14, 2016 - 11:02 PM UTC

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Although I understand the reason why this decision was made, I think the amount of time t oedit posts is too limited.

Could it be possible to extend it a bit?
TIA

Olivier


Olivier: if we did that they could still delete all the content of their post and it will just be blank then.
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Posted: Tuesday, March 15, 2016 - 04:26 AM UTC
Or maybe have a preview capability to minimize the edits needed after posting.
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Posted: Friday, April 08, 2016 - 08:25 AM UTC
Frankly, I too do believe the edit time is very limited. I understand that then people have more time to then delete content from their posts if they want but if someone believes in what they say, there really is no reason to delete what they just said. The problem for me lies here: I had already made a comment on a thread about something. While I was writing that up, someone else posted a comment. Myself, not wanting to post a comment twice in a row decided to edit what I wanted to say into my previous comment. Unfortunately I spent more time writing than the 10 minute window allowed and I lost all of what I had written. This is my problem with the short 10 minutes given. I now am left with the option of either trying to remember much of what I wrote in response to that comment dispelling myths, or forgetting it entirely. This has also happened to me a few times before. I can not be the only person who had this experience.

I feel that if the window to Edit only was expanded to even 30 minutes, it would cut down on that experience. And, like I said, if someone believes in what they say, there is no reason for them to go in and edit out what they had said.
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Posted: Friday, April 08, 2016 - 08:36 AM UTC
Never type a long reply in directly - use a text editor then copy/paste when ready :-)

I even do this with database queries at work - I never trust the query front end programs. Lost too many big long complicated queries in the past!
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Posted: Friday, April 08, 2016 - 07:57 PM UTC

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... Unfortunately I spent more time writing than the 10 minute window allowed and I lost all of what I had written. This is my problem with the short 10 minutes given. ...

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... Never type a long reply in directly - use a text editor then copy/paste when ready ...

What Nick said. And correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the current time allotment one hour? ... I can easily use that up writing one senta ...
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Posted: Friday, April 08, 2016 - 07:59 PM UTC
... nce!
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Posted: Friday, April 08, 2016 - 10:34 PM UTC
If you REALLY need to change a misspelling, grammar, or comment and the Edit button is not available, contact the forum's Editors and staff as they have admin privileges to change posts. Just tell them what you want changed.

The staff can be seen by clicking the "About" word in the graphic banner.
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Posted: Saturday, April 09, 2016 - 12:31 PM UTC

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... Unfortunately I spent more time writing than the 10 minute window allowed and I lost all of what I had written. This is my problem with the short 10 minutes given. ...

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... Never type a long reply in directly - use a text editor then copy/paste when ready ...

What Nick said. And correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the current time allotment one hour? ... I can easily use that up writing one senta ...


I don't think so. If it was I would've had that edit edited in.
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Posted: Saturday, April 09, 2016 - 03:00 PM UTC

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If you REALLY need to change a misspelling, grammar, or comment and the Edit button is not available, contact the forum's Editors and staff as they have admin privileges to change posts. Just tell them what you want changed.

The staff can be seen by clicking the "About" word in the graphic banner.


Just to clarify, not ALL staff have editorial powers over posts. You need to get hold of the bigger cheeses, rather than foot-soldiers like me!
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Posted: Saturday, April 09, 2016 - 10:36 PM UTC

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If you REALLY need to change a misspelling, grammar, or comment and the Edit button is not available, contact the forum's Editors and staff as they have admin privileges to change posts. Just tell them what you want changed.

The staff can be seen by clicking the "About" word in the graphic banner.


Just to clarify, not ALL staff have editorial powers over posts. You need to get hold of the bigger cheeses, rather than foot-soldiers like me!


I stand corrected . The forum Editors and Admins should have editing access.
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Posted: Sunday, April 10, 2016 - 04:00 AM UTC

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... Unfortunately I spent more time writing than the 10 minute window allowed and I lost all of what I had written. This is my problem with the short 10 minutes given. ...

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... Never type a long reply in directly - use a text editor then copy/paste when ready ...

What Nick said. And correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the current time allotment one hour? ... I can easily use that up writing one senta ...


I don't think so. If it was I would've had that edit edited in.


For want of something to do while getting my first caffeine fix of the day -- I timed it!

The EDIT button disappears an hour after the post, on the dot.

I'd second Nick's comment -- if it was a long a post, I'd type on an editor such as Word and then just pop it in the reply / post window when ready.

However I'd still vote to have a preview capability if edit time can't be longer.

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Posted: Tuesday, April 12, 2016 - 09:37 AM UTC
Or a "Save recent changes" function. I know there are some forums that have this that will save your changes in the text box and if the page restarts or you back out and then get back into the page. This could be helpful.
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Posted: Tuesday, April 12, 2016 - 12:08 PM UTC

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Unfortunately I spent more time writing than the 10 minute window allowed and I lost all of what I had written.


This is a rather bad effect of the way it's coded currently. I can try to fix this issue, and will take a look at the time window for edits and deletes again to make sure ample time is being given.

FYI... for all concerned this is a pretty standard feature on most newer forum software. And some don't even allow editing/deleting so at least we have that option.

Cheers,
Jim
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Posted: Tuesday, April 12, 2016 - 08:33 PM UTC
Hi Jim,

Is there any chance we might see a "preview" option in future? It would go a long way towards reducing the need to edit, especially the dreaded issue of adding photos to a post! Us "old hands" may know the knack, but for noobs it would be helpful if they could fiddle with the img codes and actually see results before they hit "post".
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Posted: Wednesday, April 13, 2016 - 12:22 AM UTC
Hi Tom,
I can see your point about the photos, etc, but again preview options are also sort of passé now in favor of just being able to correct a problem via edit. To do that creates a whole different view page in the code and that means 200-1000 more lines of code to manage. Just not worth it in lieu of being able to edit.

Thanks,
Jim
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Posted: Wednesday, April 13, 2016 - 12:24 AM UTC
lol I made this point long time ago.
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Posted: Wednesday, April 13, 2016 - 04:46 AM UTC

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Hi Tom,
I can see your point about the photos, etc, but again preview options are also sort of passé now in favor of just being able to correct a problem via edit. To do that creates a whole different view page in the code and that means 200-1000 more lines of code to manage. Just not worth it in lieu of being able to edit.

Thanks,
Jim


I understand, but the scenario we keep seeing is folks wrestling with images, failing to get the desired results, then eventually reaching out for help, and by the time they get replies their "golden hour" is used up.

If the "trend" is away from previews in favour of the Edit function, then our hour-long window is a problem. But we have that limit because of somebody deleting all his posts, so how do we resolve the conflict? (Unlimited editing would of course allow folks to replace huge pic files with smaller ones when they finally get the hang of things, without dooming their old posts to having the dreaded "red X", but opens the door to abuse...)
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Posted: Friday, April 15, 2016 - 03:31 AM UTC
It's impossible to edit the thread subject if one started it, right? For a regular user that is.

It would be most useful to be able to edit it, this is possible on more "technically limited" forums, I'm thinking Missing lynx...

Cheers,

Christophe
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Posted: Friday, April 15, 2016 - 05:55 AM UTC

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Hi Tom,
I can see your point about the photos, etc, but again preview options are also sort of passé now in favor of just being able to correct a problem via edit. To do that creates a whole different view page in the code and that means 200-1000 more lines of code to manage. Just not worth it in lieu of being able to edit.

Thanks,
Jim


I understand, but the scenario we keep seeing is folks wrestling with images, failing to get the desired results, then eventually reaching out for help, and by the time they get replies their "golden hour" is used up.

If the "trend" is away from previews in favour of the Edit function, then our hour-long window is a problem. But we have that limit because of somebody deleting all his posts, so how do we resolve the conflict? (Unlimited editing would of course allow folks to replace huge pic files with smaller ones when they finally get the hang of things, without dooming their old posts to having the dreaded "red X", but opens the door to abuse...)


An updated, easily accessible FAQ page may be of help.
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