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Major_Goose
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Posted: Tuesday, February 03, 2004 - 07:07 PM UTC
Hello guys . Here is my problem i ve got the Revell 1/35 JagdPanther (late version) and i plan to use it in a dio. but there is another (secret for the moment) vehicle that was supposed to appear in two occasions . In operation "Zitadel" 1943 and in Kursk . So my question is did the Jagdpanther existed in either occasion of the two so i can match the historical accuracy with the modelling project . I have under planning a really big dio , with over 5 vehicles and more than 20 figures. But though searching a lil i couldnt figure out. If anyone can please do . Thanks a lot .
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Posted: Tuesday, February 03, 2004 - 08:13 PM UTC
My refs say that production of the JagdPanther didn't begin until January 1944. That would put the first engagements on the Eastern Front later that spring in Byelorussia and the Ukraine.
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Posted: Tuesday, February 03, 2004 - 08:20 PM UTC
hello you sould look her, http://www.wwiivehicles.com/html/germany/jagd.html
there is some info about the jagdpanther.
good luck
there is some info about the jagdpanther.
good luck
Major_Goose
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Posted: Tuesday, February 03, 2004 - 08:51 PM UTC
tHANKS FOR HELP BUDDIES THE HUNT GOES ON FOR MORE INFO
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Posted: Thursday, February 05, 2004 - 12:49 PM UTC
I thought opperation "Citadel" and "Kursk" were the same things, Kursk being the conflict that took place during the german offensive "Zitadel". Jagdpanthers at kursk: to my knowledge, no they werent
Heres a chart of fascist tanks at kursk
AFV ........................Main Gun .............................Armour ........................Notes
Name........Bore/Type.....Calibre......Armor Min (mm)...Max (mm)......Notes
Tanks:
Pz Jg I 4.7cm PaK (t)...L/43.4...6...14.5...Czech 4.7cm AT on PzIB Chassis
Pz II F 2cm KwK 30...L/55...5....35
Marder II 7.5cm PaK 40/2...L/43....5....35...Pz II Chassis
Pz III J 5cm KwK 38....L/42...10....50
Pz III J/1 5cm KwK 39...L/60...10....50
Pz III L 5cm KwK 39...L/60...10...57
Pz III M 5cm KwK 39...L/60...10...57
Pz III N 7.5cm KwK 37....L/24...10....57
Pz III Flamm 14mm Flamethrower...10....57....with 6, 11Pz Div, GD
Pz IV D 7.5cm KwK 37....L/24....10....35
Pz IV E 7.5cm KwK 37.....L/24....10....50
Pz IV F 7.5cm KwK 37 L/24....10....50
Pz IV F2 7.5cm KwK 40...L/43...10....50
Pz IV G 7.5cm KwK 40...L/48...10...50
Pz IV H 7.5cm KwK 40....L/48...10....80
Pz V D 7.5cm KwK 42...L/70...16....100...Panther D
Pz VI E 8.8cm KwK 36...L/56...25....110...Tiger I
Assault Guns/TD:
StuG III B 7.5cm StuK 37...L/24...11....50
StuG III E 7.5cm StuK 37...L/24....17....50
StuG III F 7.5cm StuK 40...L/43....11...50
StuG III F/8 7.5cm StuK 40...L/48....11....50
StuG III G 7.5cm StuK 40...L/48....11....50
StuH 42 10.5cm StuH 42....L/28.....11....50
Marder III (t) H 7.5cm PaK 40/3...L/48...8....50 Pz 38(t) H Chassis
Marder III (t) M 7.5cm PaK 40/3....L/48....8....15 Pz 38(t) M Chassis
SturmPz IV 15cm StuH 43...L/12...10....100....Brummbar; w 216 StPzAbt
Pz Jg III/IV 8.8cm PaK 43/...L/71...10....30....Hornisse/Nashorn
Pz Jg VI 8.8cm PaK 43/2...L/71...30....200...Ferdinand/Elefant
Heres a chart of fascist tanks at kursk
AFV ........................Main Gun .............................Armour ........................Notes
Name........Bore/Type.....Calibre......Armor Min (mm)...Max (mm)......Notes
Tanks:
Pz Jg I 4.7cm PaK (t)...L/43.4...6...14.5...Czech 4.7cm AT on PzIB Chassis
Pz II F 2cm KwK 30...L/55...5....35
Marder II 7.5cm PaK 40/2...L/43....5....35...Pz II Chassis
Pz III J 5cm KwK 38....L/42...10....50
Pz III J/1 5cm KwK 39...L/60...10....50
Pz III L 5cm KwK 39...L/60...10...57
Pz III M 5cm KwK 39...L/60...10...57
Pz III N 7.5cm KwK 37....L/24...10....57
Pz III Flamm 14mm Flamethrower...10....57....with 6, 11Pz Div, GD
Pz IV D 7.5cm KwK 37....L/24....10....35
Pz IV E 7.5cm KwK 37.....L/24....10....50
Pz IV F 7.5cm KwK 37 L/24....10....50
Pz IV F2 7.5cm KwK 40...L/43...10....50
Pz IV G 7.5cm KwK 40...L/48...10...50
Pz IV H 7.5cm KwK 40....L/48...10....80
Pz V D 7.5cm KwK 42...L/70...16....100...Panther D
Pz VI E 8.8cm KwK 36...L/56...25....110...Tiger I
Assault Guns/TD:
StuG III B 7.5cm StuK 37...L/24...11....50
StuG III E 7.5cm StuK 37...L/24....17....50
StuG III F 7.5cm StuK 40...L/43....11...50
StuG III F/8 7.5cm StuK 40...L/48....11....50
StuG III G 7.5cm StuK 40...L/48....11....50
StuH 42 10.5cm StuH 42....L/28.....11....50
Marder III (t) H 7.5cm PaK 40/3...L/48...8....50 Pz 38(t) H Chassis
Marder III (t) M 7.5cm PaK 40/3....L/48....8....15 Pz 38(t) M Chassis
SturmPz IV 15cm StuH 43...L/12...10....100....Brummbar; w 216 StPzAbt
Pz Jg III/IV 8.8cm PaK 43/...L/71...10....30....Hornisse/Nashorn
Pz Jg VI 8.8cm PaK 43/2...L/71...30....200...Ferdinand/Elefant
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Posted: Thursday, February 05, 2004 - 12:55 PM UTC
Thanks for posting that list :-)
There were still no Jadgpanthers at Kursk.
Perhaps you were thinking of the Nashorn or Elephant?
HTH-
Jeff
There were still no Jadgpanthers at Kursk.
Perhaps you were thinking of the Nashorn or Elephant?
HTH-
Jeff
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Posted: Friday, February 06, 2004 - 04:26 PM UTC
The Jadgpanther was a variant ot the Panther G. My sources indicate that both vehicles were produced simultaneously starting in January 1944 and the first G's built by MAN being delivered in March '44, with the Jagdpanthers presumably shortly after. It would be impossible for either vehicle to have existed in mid-1943 during Zitadel (or Kursk).
Posted: Friday, February 06, 2004 - 07:39 PM UTC
Katyusha,
no disrespect, but it seems you have confused the German terms Jagdpanzer and Jagdpanther.
The first is a class of vehicles (Tank Destroyers, abbreviated as Pz. Jg. in German), and the second the name of a vehicle (which simultanously indicates the tankchassis it is derived from).
no disrespect, but it seems you have confused the German terms Jagdpanzer and Jagdpanther.
The first is a class of vehicles (Tank Destroyers, abbreviated as Pz. Jg. in German), and the second the name of a vehicle (which simultanously indicates the tankchassis it is derived from).
mikeli125
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Posted: Friday, February 06, 2004 - 11:20 PM UTC
may be thinking of Stugs instead?
Katyusha
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Posted: Saturday, February 07, 2004 - 01:17 AM UTC
Quoted Text
Perhaps you were thinking of the Nashorn or Elephant?
Yeah I think I was. I'll change that.
Quoted Text
no disrespect, but it seems you have confused the German terms Jagdpanzer and Jagdpanther
Thats what it was!!