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Wilder washes
bgcmd59
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Posted: Monday, March 21, 2016 - 08:49 AM UTC
I have a question about (problem with) a Wilder Dark Shadow wash. I painted the model with Tamiya and coated with Future and waited over a day. Business as usual before the first wash. I applied the wash and went back after the excess with mineral spirits. The wash won't budge with staining and tide marks. I have tried Mig white spirits and Turpenoid with no luck. Do Wilder products require a special thinner? As is, the finish is ruined, and given the scale of the project, the expense of the kit and conversion and my hopes to have it ready for a show in 2 weeks, I am quite distressed. I am hoping to salvage this. I can't overstate my disappointment with this product.
Grauwolf
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Posted: Monday, March 21, 2016 - 09:23 AM UTC
Do you have a photo of the problem?
bgcmd59
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Posted: Monday, March 21, 2016 - 09:57 PM UTC
I will try later...limited success with posting photos in the past. It is just the wash staining the underlying finish in blotches that I cannot subdue the way I have with other brands of washes and with oil paints. Should have stuck with the brands I know.
cesar
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Posted: Monday, March 21, 2016 - 11:51 PM UTC
If nothing else works, you can try physically removing it using a fiberglass pen or other light abrasive, like ultrafine wet-and-dry paper or polishing cloths and compounds (even toothpaste).

Try it in a hidden area so not to make the problem worse if it doesn´t go well.

Regards,

César
rinaldi119
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Posted: Tuesday, March 22, 2016 - 01:06 AM UTC

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I have a question about (problem with) a Wilder Dark Shadow wash. I painted the model with Tamiya and coated with Future and waited over a day. Business as usual before the first wash. I applied the wash and went back after the excess with mineral spirits. The wash won't budge with staining and tide marks. I have tried Mig white spirits and Turpenoid with no luck. Do Wilder products require a special thinner? As is, the finish is ruined, and given the scale of the project, the expense of the kit and conversion and my hopes to have it ready for a show in 2 weeks, I am quite distressed. I am hoping to salvage this. I can't overstate my disappointment with this product.


Sounds like you left them on too long and they dried before you got back to wiping the excess away? Not sure that's a problem with the washes themselves.

It's not a hard fix, tedious maybe. As suggested, you lightly sand the edges of the tidemarks down a bit to even the surface out, and then just respray your paint colors on top of those areas in very thin layers. It should cover without too much trouble.
ANPWilder
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Posted: Tuesday, March 22, 2016 - 06:51 AM UTC
Hello
It sounds like you let them sit for too long but you should have plenty of time to remove the excess before they set.
We have a video about adding that wash here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vsk9Tn33a5g

You might be able to simply apply a few more light coats of the base over everything, add another layer of future, than start with the washes again.

Let us know how it goes.
ANPW
bgcmd59
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Posted: Wednesday, March 23, 2016 - 06:59 AM UTC
Thank you gentlemen. I am back on track. Good practice with precission airbrushing as a bonus.
andromeda673
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Posted: Friday, March 25, 2016 - 06:09 PM UTC
I watched your tube channel Wilder........great stuff and well produced, big help!
11Bravo_C2
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Posted: Tuesday, April 05, 2016 - 05:40 AM UTC

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I watched your tube channel Wilder........great stuff and well produced, big help!


I concur. Awesome videos in terms of production and good content!!
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