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Armor and ground forces of the Axis forces during World War II.
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12.8 cm ammo
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Posted: Tuesday, March 22, 2016 - 10:11 AM UTC
Anyone know a source for 1/35 scale , 12.8 cm Pak 80 and/or Pak 44 ammunition .


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Posted: Tuesday, March 22, 2016 - 11:05 AM UTC
Schatton of Germany offers the pak and Flak ammo
RB of Poland offers the Pak ammo
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Posted: Tuesday, March 22, 2016 - 11:33 AM UTC
Thanks !

Any vendor recommendations .?
The RB webstore shows zero on hand -
Having difficulty finding Schatton Modelbau ammo
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Posted: Tuesday, March 22, 2016 - 03:07 PM UTC
For future reference, if you go to www.scalemates.com and search for your subject (in this case I tried 12.8cm) you will get a list of kits and accessories that you can follow on to find reviews and suppliers, and more kits and accessories. It's very useful.

KL
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Posted: Tuesday, March 22, 2016 - 07:41 PM UTC
Thanks , Kurt
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Posted: Tuesday, March 22, 2016 - 09:46 PM UTC
Alliance Model Works makes turned brass ammo for the Pak 44. You can find it here:

http://www.am-works.com/products/land/1-35/lw35071-german-wwii-12-8cm-pzgr-43-ammunition-pack-5pcs/

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Posted: Tuesday, March 22, 2016 - 10:04 PM UTC

Cool ,
Thanks .

I keep finding Pak 40 and have a set ( Aber ) on back-order ,
But I'm trying to figure out if there is any dimensional difference in the casing length.
If they are the same except for the powder charge , then I'm good .
I don't think the small differences in the shot weight would at all be noticeable @ 1/35


Thanks again for the link
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Posted: Wednesday, March 23, 2016 - 04:39 AM UTC
Keep in mind that if you are using them late in the war, there was a lot of material shortages and you probably wouldn't find these in brass. That means you'll probably have to paint them a steel color.
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Posted: Wednesday, March 23, 2016 - 08:28 AM UTC

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I keep finding Pak 40 and have a set ( Aber ) on back-order, but I'm trying to figure out if there is any dimensional difference in the casing length.

If they are the same except for the powder charge , then I'm good. I don't think the small differences in the shot weight would at all be noticeable @ 1/35



??? The PaK 40 (a 75mm gun) used substantially smaller cartridges than the 128mm guns, in all dimensions. I also think the larger gun used semi-fixed ammunition rather than the fixed cartridges of the Pak 40. You should probably look for information on the ammunition sizes.

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Posted: Wednesday, March 23, 2016 - 08:36 AM UTC
They refer to the Sturer Emil's 12.8 as Pak 40

Under variants : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/12.8_cm_FlaK_40

I'm thinking it is a physically smaller casing
I believe the " 40 " is the year developed ...

The Pak 44 was indeed separated ammo

example ( ? ) -http://www.hlj.com/product/ABE35P-06/Mil
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Posted: Wednesday, March 23, 2016 - 08:44 AM UTC

http://www.hlj.com/product/ABE35P-06/Mil

If you zoom in on the Aber decal sheet there -- it looks like it says " 12.8 " X " 40 , not " K "

I have the exact dimensions and weights for Pak 44 ammo
I need the #'s for the Emil's ammo
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Posted: Wednesday, March 23, 2016 - 08:51 AM UTC

... and anyways -- just wrap that 75 mm brass with rags and jamb it in there !
It'll all work out ..

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