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Kitbask question = Meng AMX30 and Heller DCA?
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Posted: Tuesday, April 05, 2016 - 11:43 PM UTC
Would the original release of the Meng AMX30 be suitable to use as the hull with kitbash of the Heller DCA AA Turret? Would the timeframes of the 2 be suitable?

Have them both in the stash and thought the newer hull would make a big difference on the finished product.

Thanks.

Edit: noticed my title spelling problem. Sorry, don't know how to change that.
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Posted: Wednesday, April 06, 2016 - 12:48 AM UTC
If I were you, but I'm not so take this for what it's worth, I would sit back and wait a while in case Meng decides that a DCA version would be a good idea. Another possibility is that someone decides to produce an AMX-13 DCA and then you could use that turret.
That old Heller turret isn't the most exciting piece of plastic I have ever seen ...... those barrels in my DCA kit looked like cooked spaghetti

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Posted: Wednesday, April 06, 2016 - 02:16 AM UTC
The answer to your question: The AMX-30 DCA was a prototype built in the late sixties. The AMX-30 B2 was announced in June 1979 (ten years after the DCA prototype) so you should use the older version, i.e. AMX-30B (don't know how much externally visible differences there are on the hull ...)
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Posted: Wednesday, April 06, 2016 - 02:32 AM UTC
I've been wanting to do this, too... but I think Robin is right - just as you get started someone will come out with a full kit or turret. Also, without modern renditions of those distinctive Hispano-Suiza cannons, it;'s not going to look that great.
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Posted: Wednesday, April 06, 2016 - 02:33 AM UTC
The guns are Oerlikon GDF 35mm guns, so simply replacing the barrels with aftermarket parts intended for say, the Tamiya Gepard or something with a marksman turret might work.
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Posted: Wednesday, April 06, 2016 - 02:53 AM UTC

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The guns are Oerlikon GDF 35mm guns, so simply replacing the barrels with aftermarket parts intended for say, the Tamiya Gepard or something with a marksman turret might work.



I've only seen the Hispano-Suiza guns mentioned - was there another prototype? Excuse my ignorance if they are the same gun!
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Posted: Wednesday, April 06, 2016 - 04:10 AM UTC

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The guns are Oerlikon GDF 35mm guns, so simply replacing the barrels with aftermarket parts intended for say, the Tamiya Gepard or something with a marksman turret might work.



I've only seen the Hispano-Suiza guns mentioned - was there another prototype? Excuse my ignorance if they are the same gun!



Maybe I'm wrong, in which case I will confess my ignorance. In any case, whatever guns they are, I have no idea another kit will have better barrels than what's in the Heller kit.
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Posted: Wednesday, April 06, 2016 - 05:58 AM UTC
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Maybe I'm wrong, [/quote]

You are. The 30mm hispanos in the DCA look nothing like the 35mm Oerlikons.

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Posted: Wednesday, April 06, 2016 - 12:46 PM UTC
Funnily enough came across the old Heller kit in the darkest recesses of the stash in the loft and had been thinking the same thing.

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Posted: Wednesday, April 06, 2016 - 06:05 PM UTC
Thanks for all the comments and thoughts. I got a few good laughs too!

Yea, I am a sucker for AA tanks. Think they look really cool with the multiple barrels and radar dishes, etc...

Edit: another thought, maybe for the good of all of us, I should start it and someone will release it. Problem solved!
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Posted: Wednesday, April 06, 2016 - 08:26 PM UTC
Whatever the base you choose, you'll have to do some surgery to the front glacis and the engine deck.





More pics on my site if they can help.

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Posted: Wednesday, April 06, 2016 - 09:28 PM UTC
Thanks Olivier. You are always a very helpful source on French armour! You never let us down.
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Posted: Thursday, April 07, 2016 - 11:30 AM UTC

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Thanks Olivier. You are always a very helpful source on French armour! You never let us down.



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