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USA machine gunner Vietnam 1/35
Strannik1988
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Posted: Monday, April 18, 2016 - 01:09 AM UTC
Dear friends, we finished new miniature in i 1/35 scale.
USA Soldier with M60 Vietnam.
Hope you like it.
This model available on our site -

www.albinoravenmini.com/#!usa135/c4wp

Vodnik
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Posted: Monday, April 18, 2016 - 11:27 AM UTC
Nicely sculpted, but USA?... Really? What kind of uniform is this? Not American, I'm afraid. The pose suggests you probably used a photo of Australian M60 gunner as a reference, but even for him the shirt pocket flaps are wrong... I'm sorry, but you should do more research.
RobH
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Posted: Monday, April 18, 2016 - 12:30 PM UTC
yes, even the photo on your site is of an Australian..........

you've just given him an M1 helmet and called him American.

potentially a really nice figure
Scarred
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Posted: Monday, April 18, 2016 - 01:01 PM UTC
Cotton Sateen OG-107 utility shirt, similar flaps.

M60 gunner Hue 82nd Airborne

http://photo.fayobserver.com/?ssid=3475#1

Soldiers landing Vung Tau, South Vietnam
http://www.stripes.com/blogs/archive-photo-of-the-day/archive-photo-of-the-day-1.9717/196th-light-infantry-brigade-arrives-in-vietnam-1966-1.273082

However the U.S. shirt doesn't have epaulets.
Vodnik
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Posted: Monday, April 18, 2016 - 01:24 PM UTC

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However the U.S. shirt doesn't have epaulets.

And the bottom edge of pocket flaps is curved, not pointy...
RobH
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Posted: Monday, April 18, 2016 - 01:40 PM UTC
The Albino Raven mini site are using this photo as reference:


This is an Australian RAR soldier. The uniform is Australian

Note the L1A1 SLR rifle in the background
Scarred
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Posted: Monday, April 18, 2016 - 02:03 PM UTC

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However the U.S. shirt doesn't have epaulets.

And the bottom edge of pocket flaps is curved, not pointy...


Goolge Cotton Sateen OG-107 utility shirt and look at the images. You will see that the flap edges range from pointy to nearly straight. On our BDU shirts in the 80's the top pockets often were not level across the top of the flap and sometimes not level from left breast to right breast. Sometimes they couldn't sew the name and branch tapes at the same height and even the pockets varied in height and width on the same shirt. My trouser cargo pockets could have different heights from one leg to another. Quality control was a myth.
Vodnik
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Posted: Monday, April 18, 2016 - 02:44 PM UTC

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My trouser cargo pockets could have different heights from one leg to another.

But the flaps of those pockets don't have uncovered buttons, do they?
Scarred
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Posted: Monday, April 18, 2016 - 02:57 PM UTC

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My trouser cargo pockets could have different heights from one leg to another.

But the flaps of those pockets don't have uncovered buttons, do they?


No, by the time I joined in the early 80's all buttons were concealed. I have pictures of my father in Germany in the mid 60's and his uniforms have exposed buttons with either straight cut pocket flaps or pointed. We had his old uniforms for years and I remember he had both exposed buttons, concealed buttons and concealed buttons with slanted pockets from his tour in 'Nam. If you go here you can see the different changes to the uniforms, where they were worn and the spec dates.

http://olive-drab.com/od_soldiers_clothing_1960-1970s.php
RobH
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Posted: Monday, April 18, 2016 - 03:24 PM UTC
I think the problem here is that because of the source image being mistaken for an American, some fundamental mistakes have cropped into the figure.

the ammo pouch his hand is resting on is on the photo part of the webbing kit of the Aussie. Here it's kind of dangling as a seperate bag.

The US, at no point, used trousers with patch cargo pocket on both legs with a single button. The original trousers of the specifically designed jungle fatigues had two exposed buttons not one, and these were quickly removed form the second version.

It's kind of an "almost there" figure. Some simple conversion work would make it more accurate, although I understand some people aren't as fussed about that.
Scarred
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Posted: Monday, April 18, 2016 - 03:59 PM UTC

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I think the problem here is that because of the source image being mistaken for an American, some fundamental mistakes have cropped into the figure.

the ammo pouch his hand is resting on is on the photo part of the webbing kit of the Aussie. Here it's kind of dangling as a seperate bag.

The US, at no point, used trousers with patch cargo pocket on both legs with a single button. The original trousers of the specifically designed jungle fatigues had two exposed buttons not one, and these were quickly removed form the second version.

It's kind of an "almost there" figure. Some simple conversion work would make it more accurate, although I understand some people aren't as fussed about that.


It took me a while but I finally realized what was bothering me about his hand. The cuff button should be on the inside of the wrist and, if memory serves, there should be two buttons so you can adjust the cuff opening.

Plus if that is an ammo pouch there should be grenade loops on both sides.
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Posted: Tuesday, April 19, 2016 - 04:27 AM UTC
Looks like they down scaled it from 1/16. And still have it wrong.
http://www.planetfigure.com/threads/us-machine-gunner-vietnam-1-16.77316/
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