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NATO Camouflaged MRAP
merlinlelutin
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Posted: Wednesday, May 04, 2016 - 01:19 AM UTC
Hi everyone,

I have this question in mind for a long time: why is it almost impossible to find a picture of an MRAP with the 3tons NATO camouflage? Or even the typical Swedish or Aussie camo schemes?

I assume it was a matter of time and money, but maybe some people can confirm or add another reason.
Moreover, I would love to see some examples if some people have pictures!
Thanks!
bison126
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Posted: Wednesday, May 04, 2016 - 01:52 AM UTC
I guess the only MRAPs I've seen in NATO or plain green camo so far are M-ATV.

Check this FB group https://www.facebook.com/BuffaloMPCV/?fref=ts

Scroll down to FEB2016 you'll see US 3-tone M-ATV, green Croatian M-ATV and a couple more of other models.

Olivier
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Posted: Wednesday, May 04, 2016 - 02:03 AM UTC
What about an Italian Cougar 6x6 in Afghanistan ?





PS : You'll have to scratchbuilt the raised roof top and the specific Platt MR655 Shielded Ring Mount though...

http://www.plattmounts.com/assets/files/Ring-Mount-MR655-4pp-brochure---Feb-2014.pdf

Croatian MaxxPro in green camo scheme :



H.P.
merlinlelutin
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Posted: Wednesday, May 04, 2016 - 02:07 AM UTC
Merci Olivier!
sneakypete
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Posted: Wednesday, May 04, 2016 - 04:11 AM UTC
They have MAT-V's here in Korea.....



Dan
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Posted: Wednesday, May 04, 2016 - 03:02 PM UTC
Another question, why military vehicles are not always painted in sand color if they are used desert environment ?
bison126
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Posted: Wednesday, May 04, 2016 - 04:55 PM UTC

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Merci Olivier!


Avec plaisir François
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Posted: Wednesday, May 04, 2016 - 05:16 PM UTC

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Another question, why military vehicles are not always painted in sand color if they are used desert environment ?

Many times a vehicle is shipped to a desert environment from its home country or non-desert areas. They haven't been painted desert camo yet and if they are only going to be there a short time they might not get painted. During Desert Storm and OIF many vehicles were shipped from all over the world to the mid-east in NATO or other camo and then painted desert tan. You can find pictures where the desert tan is chipping off showing NATO camo underneath. They can also be partially painted, have different colored parts like desert tan TUSK kits on NATO painted Abrams or armor kits on wheeled vehicles. You do what you need to do to get a vehicle into battle.
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Posted: Wednesday, May 04, 2016 - 05:36 PM UTC

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Another question, why military vehicles are not always painted in sand color if they are used desert environment ?

Many times a vehicle is shipped to a desert environment from its home country or non-desert areas. They haven't been painted desert camo yet and if they are only going to be there a short time they might not get painted. During Desert Storm and OIF many vehicles were shipped from all over the world to the mid-east in NATO or other camo and then painted desert tan. You can find pictures where the desert tan is chipping off showing NATO camo underneath. They can also be partially painted, have different colored parts like desert tan TUSK kits on NATO painted Abrams or armor kits on wheeled vehicles. You do what you need to do to get a vehicle into battle.



Quite a few color photos of US and Coalition Tanks, AFVs and Soft-skins exist painted in the 3-color NATO scheme, serving alongside "Desert Sand" vehicles- many units simply didn't have the time to repaint their vehicles in the Sand color...
KurtLaughlin
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Posted: Wednesday, May 04, 2016 - 09:02 PM UTC

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Another question, why military vehicles are not always painted in sand color if they are used desert environment ?



For the same reason that most of the vehicles at bases here in the mountains, forests, and pastures of Pennsylvania are painted tan.

KL
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Posted: Wednesday, May 04, 2016 - 09:50 PM UTC
Scarred and M4A1Sherman thank you for your answer.
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Posted: Wednesday, May 04, 2016 - 10:55 PM UTC
Not to mention CARC paint is a PIA to apply properly vs normal paint. I've heard stories of Russian tankers painting their vehicles every 6 months or so!
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Posted: Thursday, May 05, 2016 - 11:13 AM UTC

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Not to mention CARC paint is a PIA to apply properly vs normal paint. I've heard stories of Russian tankers painting their vehicles every 6 months or so!

Two part epoxy type CARC was a PIA to apply. If the surface prep wasn't done right it just peeled off in a few weeks. That stuff reeked and if it got on your skin (NOT RECOMMENDED) it had to wear off. Sometimes field repairs were done with krylon but when we got back it was sand, grind, clean, CARC.
matlev
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Posted: Thursday, May 05, 2016 - 11:50 AM UTC
Regarding the swedish MRAP:s, RG-32M Galten (eng Boar) I haver never seen it painted in other colours than dark green or desert sand hence the lack of pictures of the vehicle in swedish splinter.

Mats
merlinlelutin
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Posted: Thursday, May 05, 2016 - 10:18 PM UTC

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Regarding the swedish MRAP:s, RG-32M Galten (eng Boar) I haver never seen it painted in other colours than dark green or desert sand hence the lack of pictures of the vehicle in swedish splinter.

Mats



Thansk Mats.
That would be so nice though to see a RG32 with the typical swedish camo!
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Posted: Thursday, May 05, 2016 - 10:49 PM UTC
You're welcome.
Nice but I'm not so sure it will ever happen. The swedish splinter camo is a real PIA to paint even in 1:1 scale. Miles of masking tape...

Mats
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