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Aged wood fence - a pictorial SBS
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Posted: Sunday, May 15, 2016 - 07:01 PM UTC
Hopefully the pictures say it all, if not just add a question and I will answer as best as I can.

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Posted: Sunday, May 15, 2016 - 07:31 PM UTC
Is this a commercial for Valejo?
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Posted: Sunday, May 15, 2016 - 08:04 PM UTC

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Is this a commercial for Valejo?


Nope, just my brush paint of choice. You could use Tamiya or life color should work the same.
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Posted: Sunday, May 15, 2016 - 08:58 PM UTC
John,

good work. Looks like you brought out some wood grain.
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Posted: Sunday, May 15, 2016 - 09:02 PM UTC

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John,

good work. Looks like you brought out some wood grain.


Thanks. Just trying to get the old weather beaten look.
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Posted: Sunday, May 15, 2016 - 10:25 PM UTC

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Is this a commercial for Valejo?


Here's the set Biggles.

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Posted: Sunday, May 15, 2016 - 10:30 PM UTC
Yes that is the set I am using, but I didn't want to "advertise" it. Also the instructions are misprinted, as the captions do not match the pictures. Also the set doesn't include the grey paint.
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Posted: Sunday, May 15, 2016 - 10:34 PM UTC
Did you start off with a real wood fence, or resin or plastic?
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Posted: Sunday, May 15, 2016 - 10:46 PM UTC

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Did you start off with a real wood fence, or resin or plastic?


It is made from basswood. Thought it could as easily been made from styrene that was textured. The first step is the application of the surface primer, which seals the wood. The process would be the same from that point on regardless of the material from which the fence is made.
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Posted: Monday, May 16, 2016 - 04:02 AM UTC
Uhhh...why would you go to so much work to make wood look like wood? A wash of thinned oil paint, or even leather dye thinned with alcohol, will give equivalent results. I will agree plastic or resin would require more treatment.
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Posted: Monday, May 16, 2016 - 04:26 AM UTC

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Uhhh...why would you go to so much work to make wood look like wood? A wash of thinned oil paint, or even leather dye thinned with alcohol, will give equivalent results. I will agree plastic or resin would require more treatment.


I would be happy for you to show me how you can get wood to look just like this with just some washes...
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Posted: Monday, May 16, 2016 - 11:04 PM UTC
Ignore the figures:
Artist's tube oils (black) thinned with Taltine (odorless oil thinner). I think it looks like wood, mostly because it is wood; branches from my wife's ficus tree.
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Posted: Monday, May 16, 2016 - 11:48 PM UTC
While I like the scene and the fence, your example is like comparing apples to oranges. I presented a flat board fence, while yours is tubular in shape. Very difficult to compare techniques on an equal basis. Nothing wrong with your method, I just still feel washes alone will not have the tonal variety or depth of a painted item. Nothing wrong with it, just a different effect.
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Posted: Tuesday, May 17, 2016 - 12:21 AM UTC
I guess you'll have to wait until I make something with coffee stirring sticks for proper comparison.
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Posted: Tuesday, May 17, 2016 - 02:18 AM UTC
Sounds like a challenge to me, Bigs.
How long would it take you to do a small section?
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Posted: Tuesday, May 17, 2016 - 02:29 AM UTC
Try tongue depressors... easily obtained at the doctor's office... or craft sticks at Mich... um, any craft store...
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Try tongue depressors... easily obtained at the doctor's office... or craft sticks at Mich... um, any craft store...


Yeah. That's what I have...tons of them!
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Posted: Tuesday, May 17, 2016 - 03:51 AM UTC

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Sounds like a challenge to me, Bigs.
How long would it take you to do a small section?

Gimme a week. I'll see what I can do. I have too many things on my bench...some figures (various scales), ship models (1/700 and 1/350 and 1/72 ), and some 1/72 armor.
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Posted: Tuesday, May 17, 2016 - 06:30 PM UTC
No rush here. I think more people should join in and let's see what we can produce with different techniques...
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Posted: Tuesday, May 17, 2016 - 08:10 PM UTC
Some other Wood SBSs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qv5LkcIX3g8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WzTh04AnwY4
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Posted: Tuesday, May 17, 2016 - 11:28 PM UTC
You beat me to it! Lol

I'm up for the challenge. Having never aged wood I think this is a great example to aspire to.

Having a thread with multiple ways to achieve similar results would be useful. It would be easy for newbs like me to come along and say "that one! that's for me!" and to be able to work with what others have learned and build/practice from there.
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Posted: Wednesday, May 18, 2016 - 04:06 AM UTC
I've been experimenting with different kinds of wood. The stirring/craft sticks, which I think are pine, have a very tight grain and don't take a stain well. I tried basswood, it's less dense and shows grain much better. I also tried some unknown strip wood for model boat building and it has a very dramatic grain pattern. Pics tomorrow.
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Posted: Wednesday, May 18, 2016 - 05:53 AM UTC
Soy sauce works very well on real wood, as does tea.




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Uhhh...why would you go to so much work to make wood look like wood? A wash of thinned oil paint, or even leather dye thinned with alcohol, will give equivalent results. I will agree plastic or resin would require more treatment.
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Posted: Wednesday, May 18, 2016 - 09:22 AM UTC
Here's what I've done so far; the craft/stirring sticks are a harder wood with a tight grain, but they don't look bad; the basswood I don't really like at all; but the unknown strip wood has a very distinct grain pattern. All types of wood were treated the same, with thinned artist's tube oil paint (black).

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Posted: Wednesday, May 18, 2016 - 12:32 PM UTC
wow! the 'unknown wood strips' are great!
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