Hi all,
I can get this kit at a good price. I would greatly appreciate any comments, negative or positive.
Also, any pictures, add-ons/aftermarket or reference sites too please :-)
Thanking you in advance!
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Opinions sought please: Italeri M925 truck
kkoori
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Posted: Sunday, February 08, 2004 - 12:49 AM UTC
Vodnik
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Posted: Sunday, February 08, 2004 - 03:09 AM UTC
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I can get this kit at a good price. I would greatly appreciate any comments, negative or positive.
Also, any pictures, add-ons/aftermarket or reference sites too please :-)
Please read my review of M923A1 model here: http://vodnik.net/index_rv.htm. I mention some aftermarket parts available there. One that is "a must" is Eduard photoetched set for Italeri M923A1 BigFoot model - all parts can be used in M925.
The only differences between M925 and M923A1 kits are wheels and the front winch. M925 comes with a winch and with 10 smaller wheels (duals on rear axes) and M923A1 is without winch and on six larger wheels. In M925 "Shelter truck" kit you get very simplified shelter to put on the cargo bed.
Regards,
Pawel
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Posted: Sunday, February 08, 2004 - 04:25 AM UTC
For the price that they sell for you can build a pretty good model. There are some weak points like the the lack of some chassis componets such as steering linkages and etc. The cargo bed has to be covered with thin plastic stock because the kit shows a wooden floor. The 900 series trucks have metal cargo beds. As Pawel has already stated there are a lot of after market parts you can get to enhance you model. I use these 925 series kits all the time in the building the M-54 five ton trucks. If you go to Pawels site you can see what could be done to the 925 to make an authentic reproduction. He is the master of this conversion.
kkoori
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Posted: Sunday, February 08, 2004 - 08:17 PM UTC
Thanks for the help so far guys, it's appreciated :-) Is the M925 still in use today? Should I replace the wheels with resin?
Cheers.
Cheers.
Vodnik
Warszawa, Poland
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Posted: Sunday, February 08, 2004 - 08:55 PM UTC
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Thanks for the help so far guys, it's appreciated :-) Is the M925 still in use today? Should I replace the wheels with resin?
I believe that "small wheeled" M925s and M923s "A-nothing" are still in use today. I recently learned that wheels in Italeri M925 kit are not accurate and after taking another look at them I can confirm - tires are quite nice and would look good, but rims are completely off... And whole kit wheels are supposedly too small. So even if you build M925 "A-nothing" variant, you still should consider replacing wheels with resin ones from Real Models. I also heard that wheels from AFV Club "M59 Long Tom" howitzer can be used - it is worth considering if you can get this kit cheaper than Real Models set, but you only get 10 wheels in the kit, so you would still need to use Italeri parts for spare wheel. But to be honest I don't know how many wheels are in Real Models set either - I have one of their other wheel sets (for MAN truck) and it didn't include spare wheel, so it is possible that this one also doesn't have it. I'm sure Animal or Gunnie will be able to clarify this.
If you've read my review of Italeri kit, you know that to modify your M925 kit to accurate M925A1 or M925A2 version you need more changes than just larger wheels. You would have to scratch build new spare wheel carrier. Also you would need newer style fuel tank if you want to build A2 model. I suggest you just get new set of smaller 5-ton wheels and build nice 10-wheeled M925 "A-nothing"
Rgds,
Pawel
warlock109
Utah, United States
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Posted: Monday, February 09, 2004 - 04:47 AM UTC
Hi, so you going to do an M925? I've built several of the kits. Italeri took a lot of short-cuts when producing the kit, but with some work (and extra cash), you should be able to pull it off. There are a lot of good pictures available on the Net. If you need a specific picture of somthing let me know, I have access to 925's, 923's and the new FMTV's. I know someone was looking for pictures of the winch hoses and cables. I can get these for you if you need them. Good luck with your build.
377
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Posted: Monday, February 09, 2004 - 09:00 AM UTC
Hello,
The M925 is still in use today . It seems most active duty units have transitioned over to at least A1& A2 series trucks. With a good number of them having the FMTV. I know that large numbers of M925s were issued out at Doha in Kuwait for units that for various reasons didn't ship their own trucks. The 101st was hauled into Iraq by a good number of 925s. Normally the 101st would have used their own FMTVs but various reasons not all of them were shipped. Another common place for them was in FSB units, they are used to haul the modular fuel systems. One odd thing about most M925s in the past couple of years is they seem to be wearing a "street" tread tire pattern. I don't know the reasoning behind it or anything like but, this oddity applies to both trucks in th U.S. and aboard. I was able to get "street" treads on M925 by using PSP Models Long Tom Tire Set. Very little work was involved in using those particular tires also. A added plus was price wise they were the cheapest route with great results.I hope this helps.
377
P.S.
A good number of National Guard and Reserve units utilize the M925 and with today's events they are as likely to be seen in action as any active duty units.
The M925 is still in use today . It seems most active duty units have transitioned over to at least A1& A2 series trucks. With a good number of them having the FMTV. I know that large numbers of M925s were issued out at Doha in Kuwait for units that for various reasons didn't ship their own trucks. The 101st was hauled into Iraq by a good number of 925s. Normally the 101st would have used their own FMTVs but various reasons not all of them were shipped. Another common place for them was in FSB units, they are used to haul the modular fuel systems. One odd thing about most M925s in the past couple of years is they seem to be wearing a "street" tread tire pattern. I don't know the reasoning behind it or anything like but, this oddity applies to both trucks in th U.S. and aboard. I was able to get "street" treads on M925 by using PSP Models Long Tom Tire Set. Very little work was involved in using those particular tires also. A added plus was price wise they were the cheapest route with great results.I hope this helps.
377
P.S.
A good number of National Guard and Reserve units utilize the M925 and with today's events they are as likely to be seen in action as any active duty units.
pascalbausset
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Posted: Monday, February 09, 2004 - 09:32 AM UTC
Hi,
Welcom,eWarlock,
With Pawel "Wodnick" were are speacking about the underside of the cargo bodyin another post. We have no pics from this part of the M923/925 trucks (same question for M927 long wheel base cargo). Can you take some pictures from this part ?
We need to :
- how it is made , how it is attached on the chassis
- know if something are attached and eventually what & where?
Thanks a lot for this.
Best regards
pascal
Welcom,eWarlock,
With Pawel "Wodnick" were are speacking about the underside of the cargo bodyin another post. We have no pics from this part of the M923/925 trucks (same question for M927 long wheel base cargo). Can you take some pictures from this part ?
We need to :
- how it is made , how it is attached on the chassis
- know if something are attached and eventually what & where?
Thanks a lot for this.
Best regards
pascal
TreadHead
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Posted: Monday, February 09, 2004 - 09:46 AM UTC
Howdy warlock109,
A very warm welcome to the site! You say you have access to both the 900 series as well as the FMTV's? I don't suppose you have access to the Mk.48 Ariculated Chassis HEMTT do you?
Tread.
FMTV pics would be great.
A very warm welcome to the site! You say you have access to both the 900 series as well as the FMTV's? I don't suppose you have access to the Mk.48 Ariculated Chassis HEMTT do you?
Tread.
FMTV pics would be great.