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CmdrCody
Joined: June 19, 2005
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Posted: Wednesday, June 15, 2016 - 07:34 AM UTC
Just saw this posted on Facebook a few minutes ago,
avenue
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Posted: Wednesday, June 15, 2016 - 09:17 AM UTC
but isn't M-60A3 fitted with thermal sight?the first tank to do so?
TankSGT
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Posted: Wednesday, June 15, 2016 - 09:30 AM UTC
When they were first deployed they used passive sights the thermals were a later upgrade.So early model A3s would need a search light. Hopefully the thermal gunners sight is included.
Tom
Tom
Kenaicop
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Posted: Wednesday, June 15, 2016 - 10:57 AM UTC
Dang dawg!! 
M4A1Sherman
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Posted: Wednesday, June 15, 2016 - 11:00 AM UTC
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Just saw this posted on Facebook a few minutes ago,
YESSSS!!!
Any idea of how soon? Oh, hell! At least it's in the pipeline!!!
GaryKato
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Posted: Wednesday, June 15, 2016 - 12:17 PM UTC
Hopefully with an M60, M728, and Israeli versions to follow.
Vodnik
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Posted: Wednesday, June 15, 2016 - 01:12 PM UTC
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When they were first deployed they used passive sights the thermals were a later upgrade.So early model A3s would need a search light. Hopefully the thermal gunners sight is included.
I wouldn't count on it. AFV Club most likely plan to release M60A3 TTS separately later.
TankSGT
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Posted: Wednesday, June 15, 2016 - 03:51 PM UTC
Damn the differences are minor.just the shape of the gunners sight, welded over search light plug and then some different cammo. Is it really worth a second kit?
Tom
Tom
Vodnik
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Posted: Wednesday, June 15, 2016 - 04:39 PM UTC
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Damn the differences are minor.just the shape of the gunners sight, welded over search light plug and then some different cammo. Is it really worth a second kit?
They could also include later style simplified thermal sleeve for the gun, although of course not all TTS had it.
TankSGT
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Posted: Wednesday, June 15, 2016 - 05:37 PM UTC
I forgot about that. It was the same one used on M1s. We even had some gun tubes with the MLRS notch on them. It was a lot easier to use. I don't think any one makes that barrel. I modified a few for some A3s I have built. Buy it or wait that's the question. I may wait since I want to build one of my tanks.Thanks for the reminder Pawel.
Tom
Tom
Vodnik
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Posted: Wednesday, June 15, 2016 - 05:42 PM UTC
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I forgot about that. It was the same one used on M1s. We even had some gun tubes with the MLRS notch on them. It was a lot easier to use. I don't think any one makes that barrel.
http://defmodel.com/catalog/htm/dm35015.html
HeavyArty
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Posted: Wednesday, June 15, 2016 - 06:14 PM UTC
Great news for modern builders. The M60A3 was so widely used that it can be made into a bunch of options.
In a business sense it is totally worth it. I am sure they will sell a bunch of the M60A3 kits and a bunch of the M60A3 TTS kits if they do make one. It will take only one smallish sprue of new parts as well, so no big outlaying of cash for another version. A win-win for AFV Club and modelers.
Individual kits of similar versions make more money for the company than combo kits that build different versions. Take a look at Dragon's M48 series and you will see how many different kits can be sold from similar versions being released separately.
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Damn the differences are minor.just the shape of the gunners sight, welded over search light plug and then some different cammo. Is it really worth a second kit?
In a business sense it is totally worth it. I am sure they will sell a bunch of the M60A3 kits and a bunch of the M60A3 TTS kits if they do make one. It will take only one smallish sprue of new parts as well, so no big outlaying of cash for another version. A win-win for AFV Club and modelers.
Individual kits of similar versions make more money for the company than combo kits that build different versions. Take a look at Dragon's M48 series and you will see how many different kits can be sold from similar versions being released separately.
skyshark
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Posted: Wednesday, June 15, 2016 - 07:23 PM UTC
We also need a AVLB
TankSGT
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Posted: Wednesday, June 15, 2016 - 09:42 PM UTC
Thanks Panel. Need that barrel.
Tom
Tom
Jennings
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Posted: Thursday, June 16, 2016 - 02:28 AM UTC
Damn you, AFV Club!! You're going to force me into getting back into creepy crawly models!!
:)
:)
Hisham
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Posted: Thursday, June 16, 2016 - 03:22 AM UTC
Is this one good for an Egyptian vehicle like the ones in this pic?
Hisham
Hisham
cheswickthecat
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Posted: Thursday, June 16, 2016 - 04:03 AM UTC
Even the box art is exciting!
Terry
Terry
jwest21
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Posted: Thursday, June 16, 2016 - 04:06 AM UTC
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I think those are of the TTS varietyIs this one good for an Egyptian vehicle like the ones in this pic?
Hisham
Jennings
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Posted: Thursday, June 16, 2016 - 04:33 AM UTC
Interestingly, almost all of the foreign M60A3s you see still have the commander's coupola.
Tankrider
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Posted: Thursday, June 16, 2016 - 04:50 AM UTC
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Is this one good for an Egyptian vehicle like the ones in this pic?
Hisham
Hisham,
The AFV Club kit will work out of the box for those Egyptian M60A3s in your first picture. It looks as the Egyptian Army has a mix of M60A3 tanks with the thermal as well as passive gunner sights. The tank in the second picture is definitely a M60A3 TTS.
John
John
Bravo1102
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Posted: Thursday, June 16, 2016 - 04:51 AM UTC
One of the Egyptian tanks clearly has the searchlight so they probably aren't TTS. At one point the thermal sights weren't exported and were even removed from exported tanks taken from US surplus.
And unlike the M48, there really wasn't anything wrong with the cupola on an M60.
And unlike the M48, there really wasn't anything wrong with the cupola on an M60.
tankerken6011
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Posted: Thursday, June 16, 2016 - 07:58 AM UTC
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And unlike the M48, there really wasn't anything wrong with the cupola on an M60.
A lot of people really hated that M-85 machinegun.
Ken.
TankSGT
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Posted: Thursday, June 16, 2016 - 03:50 PM UTC
I never had issues with the M85. Putting it in the cupola was a real pain though.
Tom
Tom
TankSGT
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Posted: Thursday, June 16, 2016 - 04:02 PM UTC
Some late model M60A3s rebuilt A1s from Anniston Army Depot in the 3 color cammo At Fort Drum NY early 90s. Good weathering shots folks it was a cold rainy time.
The Mach Vwas mine she was fast as hell but the gunnery system was crap. The shafts weren't aligned properly.
Tom
The Mach Vwas mine she was fast as hell but the gunnery system was crap. The shafts weren't aligned properly.
Tom
M4A1Sherman
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Posted: Thursday, June 16, 2016 - 04:36 PM UTC
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Damn the differences are minor.just the shape of the gunners sight, welded over search light plug and then some different cammo. Is it really worth a second kit?
Tom
Agree, but still not too far-fetched- AFV CLUB did their M5A1 (Early) and (Late) Stuart kits, even though the differences between the two variants are relatively minor. They COULD have just included the few parts for each variant in the same kit, but didn't- MORE MONEY to be made with TWO separate kits, instead...
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