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Dragon: StuG.III Ausf.E
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Posted: Monday, June 20, 2016 - 04:22 PM UTC


Dragon Models has announced a kit that has caught my attention, a smart kit offering of a StuG.III Ausf.E in 1/35th scale. Part of what has caught my attention is the interior and gun breech detail provided. On the down side for many will be the DS tracks.

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Posted: Monday, June 20, 2016 - 04:30 PM UTC
Very nice,long awaited for many.More choice now with this and the Bronco kit.Stug III kit #6633 also had a detailed breech and some interior parts including radios,but although I can't tell this looks more extensive.

But those skinny little Panzer III and IV DS tracks look really bad to me
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Posted: Monday, June 20, 2016 - 05:23 PM UTC
Very nice ammo racks. Hopefully they will do the same with newer runs of their Stug III G's. etc...
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Posted: Monday, June 20, 2016 - 05:36 PM UTC
Nice!!!!
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Posted: Tuesday, June 21, 2016 - 02:23 AM UTC
this type of model i wait long enough.
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Posted: Tuesday, June 21, 2016 - 03:09 AM UTC
Nice, but I wish that they would go back to the Magic Track.
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Posted: Tuesday, June 21, 2016 - 07:37 PM UTC

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Nice, but I wish that they would go back to the Magic Track.


I do too, but I don't think that that will ever happen- "Magic Tracks" are more expensive to manufacture than those "DS" Tracks. DRAGON, nor ANY other model manufacturer, don't like to lose money... If you like "Indy-links", then you'll have to bite the bullet with the rest of us, and buy aftermarket Track sets... Or, buy the BRONCO kit instead...
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Posted: Tuesday, June 21, 2016 - 11:46 PM UTC
Probably right that they'll never go back to indy links and it will be DS from now on. They don't quite have the market to themselves anymore, but their position is strong enough to do it. Competition is coming and some modelers, like myself, won't buy kits with DS. Also, IMHO, this kit could and should have been done with this detail 5-10 years ago, and Bronco, MiniArt, et al. are worth waiting for.
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Posted: Wednesday, June 22, 2016 - 04:12 AM UTC

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Nice, but I wish that they would go back to the Magic Track.


I do too, but I don't think that that will ever happen- "Magic Tracks" are more expensive to manufacture than those "DS" Tracks. DRAGON, nor ANY other model manufacturer, don't like to lose money... If you like "Indy-links", then you'll have to bite the bullet with the rest of us, and buy aftermarket Track sets... Or, buy the BRONCO kit instead...


If it's expensive to bundle in the kit, why not offer Magic Track as option.
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Posted: Wednesday, June 22, 2016 - 04:57 AM UTC

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Probably right that they'll never go back to indy links and it will be DS from now on. They don't quite have the market to themselves anymore, but their position is strong enough to do it. Competition is coming and some modelers, like myself, won't buy kits with DS. Also, IMHO, this kit could and should have been done with this detail 5-10 years ago, and Bronco, MiniArt, et al. are worth waiting for.


In defense of "DS" Tracks, I personally haven't had bad luck with them disintegrating on me, even over 10 years time. I've even successfully managed to re-create "Track-sag" on several of my Tiger Is and 1 Panther with "DS" Tracks- I coated the "inside" upper length of Tracks with cyano-glue, and placed a weighted "form" to get the "DS" Tracks to replicate the "Track-sag" seen on WWII German Tanks. So far, they're still OK. HOWEVER- I much prefer "Magic Tracks" for any AFV or Soft-skin where there is evidence of even the slightest "Track-sag". So mostly, I resort to aftermarket "Indy-link" Track sets when required. My DRAGON Shermans are still OK with their "DS" Tracks, for the present.

PS- Guys- Keep your eyes on MINIART and BRONCO- Also from MENG, TACO (TAKOM ) and others- I'm sure that we'll be seeing more great WWII stuff from them, hopefully the subjects that used to make BIG MONEY for DRAGON in years past...
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Posted: Wednesday, June 22, 2016 - 05:04 AM UTC

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Nice, but I wish that they would go back to the Magic Track.


I do too, but I don't think that that will ever happen- "Magic Tracks" are more expensive to manufacture than those "DS" Tracks. DRAGON, nor ANY other model manufacturer, don't like to lose money... If you like "Indy-links", then you'll have to bite the bullet with the rest of us, and buy aftermarket Track sets... Or, buy the BRONCO kit instead...


If it's expensive to bundle in the kit, why not offer Magic Track as option.


Because JUST including "DS" Tracks is cheaper...
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Posted: Wednesday, June 22, 2016 - 05:13 AM UTC

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Nice, but I wish that they would go back to the Magic Track.


I do too, but I don't think that that will ever happen- "Magic Tracks" are more expensive to manufacture than those "DS" Tracks. DRAGON, nor ANY other model manufacturer, don't like to lose money... If you like "Indy-links", then you'll have to bite the bullet with the rest of us, and buy aftermarket Track sets... Or, buy the BRONCO kit instead...


If it's expensive to bundle in the kit, why not offer Magic Track as option.


Because JUST including "DS" Tracks is cheaper...


I get that. What I meant to say was why not offer it separately as an AM option. Can't compete
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Posted: Wednesday, June 22, 2016 - 05:21 AM UTC

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PS- Guys- Keep your eyes on MINIART and BRONCO- Also from MENG, TACO (TAKOM ) and others- I'm sure that we'll be seeing more great WWII stuff from them, hopefully the subjects that used to make BIG MONEY for DRAGON in years past...


For my money, I'd rather see new kits of new (to the market) subjects from these manufacturers (not new to the maker), rather than yet more kits of the same subject. For an example, maybe the Panzer IV assault ladder? Or, being reckless here, a Fa 223 helicopter in 1/35. Or even that DFS230 glider from Bronco?! But getting back on track, so to speak, to the tread topic, I'll wait for Bronco's offering before committing to buying this one.

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And some of those mentioned manufacturers could do modern subject and still be on a win
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Posted: Wednesday, June 22, 2016 - 05:35 AM UTC

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PS- Guys- Keep your eyes on MINIART and BRONCO- Also from MENG, TACO (TAKOM ) and others- I'm sure that we'll be seeing more great WWII stuff from them, hopefully the subjects that used to make BIG MONEY for DRAGON in years past...


For my money, I'd rather see new kits of new (to the market) subjects from these manufacturers (not new to the maker), rather than yet more kits of the same subject. For an example, maybe the Panzer IV assault ladder? Or, being reckless here, a Fa 223 helicopter in 1/35. Or even that DFS230 glider from Bronco?! But getting back on track, so to speak, to the tread topic, I'll wait for Bronco's offering before committing to buying this one.

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And some of those mentioned manufacturers could do modern subject and still be on a win


ALL TRUE! However, if MINIART, BRONCO and the other new kids on the block are ever going to be doing their own versions of those Shermans, Stuarts, Lee/Grants, Tigers, Panthers, et al, INCLUDING Interiors and Indy-links, (You know, the DRAGON kits that we've been griping about because of those detested "DS" Tracks, Opaque Light Lenses, etc, etc), don't you think that there would be BOATLOADS of modellers lining up to buy them?

I don't see anyone griping about the ASUKA/TASCA Shermans because they contain VINYL Tracks- I'd like to see ASUKA dump the vinyl tracks that they put in their Sherman kits, and I for one, would be HAPPY to pay a little bit more for these kits if they had Indy-links, instead!
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Posted: Wednesday, June 22, 2016 - 05:42 AM UTC

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I get that. What I meant to say was why not offer it separately as an AM option. Can't compete


I see what you're saying. The way Tamiya offers separate links for sale for some of their kits, like the Panther they put out a little while ago.
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I get that. What I meant to say was why not offer it separately as an AM option. Can't compete


I see what you're saying. The way Tamiya offers separate links for sale for some of their kits, like the Panther they put out a little while ago.


Dragon did offer their magic track sets seperate once, as part of their deficit Cyber-Hobby line, but I was only a single production run that sold out in no time
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I get that. What I meant to say was why not offer it separately as an AM option. Can't compete


I see what you're saying. The way Tamiya offers separate links for sale for some of their kits, like the Panther they put out a little while ago.


Dragon did offer their magic track sets seperate once, as part of their deficit Cyber-Hobby line, but I was only a single production run that sold out in no time


CYBERHOBBY also offered several beautiful "early", "mid" and "late" VVSS Suspension sets for the M3 and M4 Medium Tanks, until they ran out. At least ASUKA offers VVSS Suspension sets for Shermaholics... Of course, there are numerous resin sets out there, made available by some very reputable A/M manufacturers...
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Posted: Sunday, July 10, 2016 - 10:18 AM UTC
Hobby Easy now has it on pre-order. It's heading caught my eye:

"StuG.III Ausf.E (1st batch with bonus Magic Tracks)"

http://www.hobbyeasy.com/en/data/cf62i8f9aqym6usso2an.html

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