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Armor/AFV: Braille Scale
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So, exactly how popular is 1/72 scale?
phoenix-1
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Posted: Friday, February 13, 2004 - 10:10 AM UTC
Tread, reading your analogy really helped me understand the point you were trying to make and I agree with the fact that 1:72 scale models are taken from a different perspective. But on the other hand, the detail that can be added to braille scale tanks is (or seems to be) more difficult to accomplish than the same detail added to 1:35 scale tanks. That seems to be the reason why two identically detailed tanks in each category are judged differently. Just my two cents.
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Posted: Friday, February 13, 2004 - 11:30 AM UTC
Howdy Phoenix,

Your post is obviously well thought about, and intuitive! And I understand your point about the efforts required to perform the same tasks on any smaller scale. But let's reverse that. Let's think about the culinary Chef who prepares an exquisite gourmet meal for two. Absolutely sumptious, with an incredible 'reduced' French sauce added to the mix.
Now, this Chef has performed a culinary feat that should be both admired, and appreciated for his ability to 'fine-tune' this narrow-focused example of 'taste-bud heaven' for two.
Now, let's give the same assignment for another talented Chef. But, in this case he has to cook the exact same meal for 500 people!.....
It's all in the prespective.
Not that's not to say the piece's (or food) aren't superb in their own right. I have seen very small military miniatures painted (54mm I think ), that have had beard stubble pin-painted on their faces! Or the faces, hands and numerals of a wristwatch painted on their arms. All things are certainly possible. I'm just making the general observation that different scales are inherently 'viewed' with different scale 'eyes'....

Tread.

My sincere apologies (if needed) to all those who have the courage (certainly more courage than I) to work in the smaller and more challenging scales!!!
TreadHead
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Posted: Friday, February 13, 2004 - 12:57 PM UTC
Just a quick example of excellent quality ship model building, but evident lack of 'Honey, I shrunk' factor applied.



Tread.
sphyrna
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Posted: Monday, April 05, 2004 - 03:42 PM UTC
I love Revell 1/72 for a few reasons- fairly quick build, great detail, good fit, and the small size allows for a variety of diorama possibilities. 1/35 is still my first choice, but when my brain is trying to force itself out of my left ear from fiddling with Friul track pieces for a few hours, settling back and completing an entire 1/72 M-1 turret is an hour is satisfying


Peter
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Posted: Monday, April 05, 2004 - 04:50 PM UTC
TREAD ... hehehehe

I agree..... small scale gets viewed differently. Otherwise.. there would be no popular phrase heard 'round the boards......"wow, GREAT (tank/plane/etc..) ... ESPECIALLY for such a small scale"

Later-
Jeff

(Ducking for cover :-) )
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Posted: Monday, April 05, 2004 - 05:44 PM UTC
I have always done 1/72nd since I started modelling in the 50's.....there was only 1/72nd then. And I've stuck with it.
Generally speaking they are cheaper and as mentioned already, take up a lot less space and in my area, Luft 46, there is a far greater choice available.
The 1/48th kits look superb but with the room I "don't" have I would soon end up not modelling at all.
Plus as everything I have is 1/72nd they all look good together for comparison. e.g. you can judge a Me 262 against a Spit or a Zero etc.

But when I do return home in UK I will probably try a 1/48th or two, just out of curiosity.
Each to his own...

Cheers
Peter
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Posted: Tuesday, April 06, 2004 - 12:26 AM UTC
Just to revisit this topic, I am in the finishing stages of building a 1:35 Panzer III L (Tamiya), and it was so much easier to build than anything I've worked on in 1:72. I can't see how anyone could argue that working in a larger scale is more difficult, conditional on the quality/quantity of the kit parts.

It was a nice break to do a larger scale panzer. Less strain on the fingers and eyes, so much easier to make a clean build and paint. Too bad they are so expensive!

Stephen
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Posted: Tuesday, April 06, 2004 - 01:16 PM UTC
All I now build is 1/72 scale because I do not have the room for the bigger stuff,,,yet. I have a 1/72 ELEFANT from dragon I built. If you want to check it out, look in "my photos", since I do not know how to post it here. Let me know what you think.
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Posted: Tuesday, April 06, 2004 - 01:22 PM UTC
Just ordered about a dozen small scale kits and I'm thinking of selling off most of my large scale stuff.

I don't see one as 'better' than the other, but the small scale has come a long way recently and it is worth trying if you haven't already.

I don't think the 'can't see it' argument is so valid. People working with tiny PE parts in 1/35 seem to do it well and that is every bit as small and challenging as 1/75.

Besides, that's what magnifiers were made for!

Steve
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Posted: Tuesday, April 06, 2004 - 01:33 PM UTC
Spades,

Nice looking model.

I'm interested to know how you did your Zimmerite. I think it looks very good for the scale.

Steve
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Posted: Tuesday, April 06, 2004 - 11:59 PM UTC
SINCE THE item is not to finish quickly the model but enjoy, scratchbuild, detail and all these i believe that 1/35 is the best choice. Of course i am always a fan of big (i like 1/32 planes) i like 120 mm figures instead of 54mm so i am not a guy to compate. Maybe somewtime i ll start again with 1/72 , cause theywere my starting items...but i believe that will be nears the end.....
Spades
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Posted: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 - 11:39 AM UTC
Sniper, thanks for the compliment on my ELEFANT Zimmeritt. I used epoxy putty, thinned it down by just pressing on it, then I used an xacto knife and went to work making the lines. The sides were really easy because that was just a flat surface. The real pain in the butt was doing the front and back of it.
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Posted: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 - 08:07 PM UTC
I thought I would chime in again for the one that was worried about others thinking he was childish for doing 1/72. The only reason they would be ribbing you would be that they are jealous they couldn't do it. Follow your heart build the models you want. The one thing doctor Phil always says, when your worried about what other people think about you. That you wouldn't worry at all if you knew how little time they spend to even think of you.
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Posted: Thursday, April 08, 2004 - 05:09 AM UTC

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I don't think the 'can't see it' argument is so valid. People working with tiny PE parts in 1/35 seem to do it well and that is every bit as small and challenging as 1/75.



To which the natural response is PE in 1:72. I know that would just drive me nuts! Makes me wonder how large the scale drawings are for PE masters before being reduced...they must give some consideration to the practical aspects of actually using the stuff. At least, one would think!

I'm looking forward to my Badger 200 SG getting here to try out some real subtle stuff on the 1:35. I would be happy if it allows me to do a reasonable job on a the main camouflage for a 1:72 with stripes. I'm really pumped about the prospect of doing some shadowing and color variation on the 1:35.

There's also just something so much more substantial about 1:35, come to think of it...I guess this is the very reason people look for something smaller when storage space comes into play.

Just some rambling thoughts...

Stephen
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Posted: Thursday, April 22, 2004 - 02:25 AM UTC
I love 1:72 scale armor. My collection is quickly beginning to overtake my 1:35 collection, and the beauty of it is that it is not taking up very much room. As to aftermarket kits and such, check out Tracks and Troops to name one place, and you'll see just how much is out there in this scale. Be different, try something new. You may find that you like it! Think about contests/shows in the past and the amount or lack thereof of armor in 1:72 scale. The field is wide open. "Q"
jimbrae
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Posted: Thursday, April 22, 2004 - 02:56 AM UTC
In answer to the original question, not popular enough..... However as several people have ponted out, the Revell stuff has reawakened the interest in it (at least for me) I have just bought a stack of them and will get something done soon....work/wife permitting...

Spades, that is lovely work on the elefant....so people don't have to keep popping into the gallery, here are some choice highlights......Jim



Spades
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Posted: Thursday, April 22, 2004 - 02:37 PM UTC
Jim,

Thanks for posting the pictures the way you did since I still have no idea on how to do it. I just recently bought a whole bunch of 1/72 armor, most from Revell and odd names. Working on a Challenger 2 at the moment.
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