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DML Bergepanzer Tiger I
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Posted: Friday, July 15, 2016 - 06:16 AM UTC
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Posted: Friday, July 15, 2016 - 06:31 AM UTC
I sometimes feel like all these model companies are actually all divisions within the same megacorporation, and they are all competing to see who can produce the best example of a product in order to get a bonus at the end of the year, and that's why they seem to announce the same freaking kits on top of each other.

Who will get a pizza party and a personalized email from the president this month, Dragon or Rye Field?
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Posted: Friday, July 15, 2016 - 06:38 AM UTC
How many berg tigers were there? I think that more companies make them then there were of the real thing. When will we see a new berg panther? That's what I'm waiting for.
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Posted: Friday, July 15, 2016 - 06:56 AM UTC

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When will we see a new berg panther?


I was actually expecting this to be the first reaction. Who knows? Maybe it'll come from one of the upstarts as well.

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Posted: Friday, July 15, 2016 - 07:18 AM UTC
Is Dragon feeling the heat from the "New Kids on the Block"?
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Posted: Friday, July 15, 2016 - 07:47 AM UTC
Nah. This is just a sideshow for Dragon these days. With all the mazooma rolling in from licensing Marvel junk and such, I doubt the great big heads at corporate HQ give a rat's patootie.
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Posted: Friday, July 15, 2016 - 07:54 AM UTC

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Nah. This is just a sideshow for Dragon these days. With all the mazooma rolling in from licensing Marvel junk and such, I doubt the great big heads at corporate HQ give a rat's patootie.


Yeah, 'cuz they be makin' dis:

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Posted: Friday, July 15, 2016 - 10:02 AM UTC
back then,Dragon usually release 4~5 set of 1/34th military figure every year,right now,it's one set a year.
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Posted: Friday, July 15, 2016 - 11:21 AM UTC
The Platz label tells me it might be a Girls und Panzer tie-in. Another huge money maker for both Dragon and Platz.

The Girls und Panzer tie ins are thr Second biggest selling model series in Japan after Gundam.
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Posted: Saturday, July 16, 2016 - 04:29 AM UTC

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The Platz label tells me it might be a Girls und Panzer tie-in. Another huge money maker for both Dragon and Platz.

The Girls und Panzer tie ins are thr Second biggest selling model series in Japan after Gundam.


I thought I'd see this announced at the Dragon website, but there's none. With this Platz tie-up, am thinking maybe this is for the Japanese domestic market
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Posted: Saturday, July 16, 2016 - 04:33 AM UTC

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How many berg tigers were there? I think that more companies make them then there were of the real thing. When will we see a new berg panther? That's what I'm waiting for.


You and me both, Troy.
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Posted: Sunday, July 17, 2016 - 03:21 AM UTC
Well, let's get one thing clear about this "BergeTiger"...

It was NOT a BergeTiger. There were actual BergeTiger (P)- all built on Tiger (P) / Ferdinand hulls. There are several kits out there of that BergeTiger (certainly Dragon - 2 kits at least, and Italeri). But there was no "BergeTiger I" built on any Tiger I ausf E hull that anyone apparently has any confirmed photos of, let alone data on. There MAY have been one made sometime, but no info is circulating on it that I've ever seen - and I would LOVE to see it! Being a life-time learner and professional curious-cat, doubting-Thomas sort!

So. NOT a "BergeTiger I". This thing was, best of anyone's knowledge, a one-off "explosive-charge layer". There ARE several pictures of this one-off. ALL apparently of the one vehicle and perhaps taken at a couple different times after it was discovered abandoned in Italy.

Do any of the kits do a good job of capturing its details? Some, yes, others maybe not so much. Maybe Dragon will have captured some that others miss, and vice-versa. Whose kit will be "best"? I have no idea! Dragon does have a lot of Tiger I kit experience... And maybe the right parts are in its line already.

What I do hope happens is that someone - maybe several someones - buys these kits and builds them and posts them! I would love to see what they come out looking like!

Cheers!

Bob
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Posted: Sunday, July 17, 2016 - 10:55 PM UTC

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Well, let's get one thing clear about this "BergeTiger"...

It was NOT a BergeTiger.


Then why is a heavy-duty towing hitch welded to the front and back of it?

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Posted: Monday, July 18, 2016 - 12:01 AM UTC
Look at it this way, we have appendixes but don't need them. Just because the tow hitch was there doesn't necessarily mean that this was supposed to be a Berge-Tiger.
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Posted: Monday, July 18, 2016 - 12:10 AM UTC

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How many berg tigers were there? I think that more companies make them then there were of the real thing. When will we see a new berg panther? That's what I'm waiting for.


Why is the Bergepanther seem to be such a holy grail ? Strange looking vehicle ? for dioramas? I don't know.
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Posted: Monday, July 18, 2016 - 12:30 AM UTC

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How many berg tigers were there? I think that more companies make them then there were of the real thing. When will we see a new berg panther? That's what I'm waiting for.


Why is the Bergepanther seem to be such a holy grail ? Strange looking vehicle ? for dioramas? I don't know.


Because it's not another Tiger kit.
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Posted: Monday, July 18, 2016 - 02:47 AM UTC

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Look at it this way, we have appendixes but don't need them. Just because the tow hitch was there doesn't necessarily mean that this was supposed to be a Berge-Tiger.


Yes, but we started out with them, they weren't added later on. Why were the hitches added to this one? Why does it both look and not look like a bergetiger? I think that crane could handle an engine but not a turret, definitely, but even if it was just an overwrought engine lift what did they think they might need to tow with this vehicle? Why did they build it? Why?


And before our little friend can chime in, no it was not the basis for the modern mbt.
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Posted: Monday, July 18, 2016 - 04:09 AM UTC

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And before our little friend can chime in, no it was not the basis for the modern mbt.

Ouch!
tatbaqui
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Posted: Monday, July 18, 2016 - 04:16 AM UTC

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How many berg tigers were there? I think that more companies make them then there were of the real thing. When will we see a new berg panther? That's what I'm waiting for.


Why is the Bergepanther seem to be such a holy grail ? Strange looking vehicle ? for dioramas? I don't know.


Curious as well. If it's a berge thing, there are others like the ones built on the Pz III, IV, 38t.
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Posted: Monday, July 18, 2016 - 04:17 AM UTC

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And before our little friend can chime in, no it was not the basis for the modern mbt.

Ouch!


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