Hello to all.

I am currently assembling my new model – ZiL-157KVT with SA-2 Guideline (S-75 Dvina) missile on PR-11B semi-trailer (Trumpeter #00204). Here is the box:


BTW, the box art is incorrect. It shows Chinese tread pattern tires on both truck and trailer, which were never used on export Soviet trucks supplied to Middle East.

I am making it as a vehicle captured by the IDF in the Yom Kippur War (I could make it for the Six Day War as well, but 1973 provides a wider overall range of prototype pics available, which is still rather limited). Prototype links and discussion are available at this thread, covering both SDW and YKW.
http://armorama.com/forums/249263&page=1

I am using the book “ZiS-151. ZiL-157. Soviet Military Trucks (Military Vehicle series)” (in Russian) by L.B.Kasheev, released in 2000 by the Kirov Military Equipment and Modelling Enthusiasts Society, as reference. It covers all versions of ZiL-157 and brief info on SA-2 and its participation in Arab-Israeli wars.

Firstly, let’s define which vehicles can be built from the Trumpeter kit. Trumpeter manual offers color scheme for Yom Kippur War, so the truck should be manufactured in late 1960’s – early 1970’s.

ZiL-157 “V” series were tractors for towing special purpose trailers. They were not suitable for general-purpose civilian trailers due to non-standard bolster height and long rear frame overhang.

Related ZiL model designation:
“V” is for tractor version;
“K” is for optional winch (installed on all tractor versions);
“D” is for late factory upgrade package (upgraded engine, one 12-volt battery under the cab instead of two 6-volt batteries, load capacity increased by 500 kg, etc.; note though ZiL could be loaded up to 8 tons instead of rated max 5 tons, and worked excellent);
“E” is for export versions to temperate climate countries;
“T” is for export versions to tropical climate countries.

ZiL tractors production order was: ZiL-157V (1958-1961), ZiL-157KV (1961-1978), ZiL-157KDV (1978-1991). Which means Trumpeter offers medium production ZiL-157KV.

Differences between standard late production ZiL-157KD truck (Trumpeter #01003) and ZiL-157KDV tractor were:
-spare wheel rack;
-tool boxes at mid frame length;
-mudguard on frame under the bolster;
-rear fenders;
-protective plates over the fuel tanks;
-different hitch.

All these features are clearly visible in Trumpeter manual http://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10032678



Here are basic truck blueprints.
http://parm.mybb.ru/viewtopic.php?id=99&p=2
http://modelist-konstruktor.com/avtosalon/tam-gde-konchaetsya-asfalt




Here is 1958 ZiL-157V.
https://new.vk.com/wall-63363604?own=1&offset=2740


It has early stamped pattern hood shields and no tire pressure control. Compare to 1961 ZiL-57KV.
http://photo.qip.ru/users/usik/2550927/all/?mode=large


Mid KV and late KDV versions were visually the same, and the Trumpeter kit is suitable for them both (except single battery in late version). Early V version can be built as well, if tire pressure system is not installed on wheels, two pneumatic receivers are installed instead of three, and hood shields to be scratchbuilt, which is not so complicated job. Export KDVE (KDVT) etc. versions looked just the same. This link lists all ZiL-157 version differences (in Russian).
http://parm.mybb.ru/viewtopic.php?id=99
http://parm.mybb.ru/viewtopic.php?id=99&p=2

Restored ZiL-157KV.
http://www.russianmilitarytrucks.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=948






BTW, as all Soviet vehicles, ZiL-157 had a wide range of emotional folklore nicknames. Some of these were: Splitting Axe (given for it had no power steering, and the steering wheel was hard to turn); Press Iron; Rabbet Plane; Truman (for the 33rd U.S. President, due to ZiL design was based on Lend-Lease trucks of WWII); Zakhar (a Russian name, here generally meaning “muzhik”, or macho).

cool subject, nice intro!
I will follow with interest.

happy modelling

Michael

Going on with prototypes: ZiL-157KD and SA-2 on SM-63 launch station at Military Historical Museum of Artillery, Engineers and Signal Corps in Saint Petersburg, Russia, for which I made a special visit. (Unfortunately, they ain’t got the PR-11B trailer.) I have already posted two GAZ-69 versions from their collection.
http://armorama.com/forums/248090&page=1
http://armorama.com/forums/248105&page=1
(I got the Bronco GAZ-69A and I am thinking of maybe making it for YKW as pair for my ZiL.)
I know this could be posted on the Яusso-Soviэt forum as well, but since I purposefully made all this research for the IDF model, I’m posting it here.

The truck here can be identified as late ZiL-157KD for single battery under the cab (not clearly seen on these pics, but it’s there).

Let’s deal with the missile and the trailer now.

Here is an Egyptian SA-2 transporter-loader vehicle (TZM) during the multinational joint service Exercise Bright Star '85. I’m using this as color reference, for SDW and YKW pics are too faded.

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Egyptian_S-75_SAM_on_truck.JPEG
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Egyptian_S-75_SAM_transported_by_truck.JPEG
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Egyptian_SA-2_SAM.JPEG




The truck frame and rims are semi-gloss black, as on all Soviet vehicles. The truck tires are from BRDM-2. There are two spares in the truck rack: one for the truck, another for the trailer, the latter with Soviet civilian hexagon tread pattern.

SDW.
http://foto-history.livejournal.com/2280770.html


The truck and the trailer here are Russian green, and the missile is light gray, both of which were standard Soviet factory colors. This confirms that standard export vehicles were supplied to Egypt, and later camoed on the site (as stated in the book, see above). Most vehicles were then painted overall light sand, and some camoed with brown and/or Russian green. The truck on the pic is ZiL-157KV.

Soviet missile prepared for delivery to start position.
http://army.lv/ru/s-75/foto/703/317/2


This PR-11B trailer, as the one on the previous pic, has bows with rigging wire for canvas top. What was its purpose? It would be a very stupid idea to believe that the canvas could conceal the missile from Israeli intelligence. Maybe it just protected the missile from dust etc.?

Here is how canvas looked on a different trailer.
https://new.vk.com/wall-27422123?own=1&offset=7840


More pics provided by Frenchy http://armorama.com/forums/249263&page=1




The trailer on the left has an Egyptian license plate. So I suppose the truck should have one, too. Trumpeter does not offer any license plate decals. I will use this reference
http://america.pink/vehicle-registration-plates-egypt_4646592.html 1980’s plates are very similar to what is shown on Frenchy’s pic, so they will do.

Also, these two trailers have different rims, but both with Soviet civilian hexagon pattern tires. The wheel on the right trailer is a standard 8-spoke wheel of early ZiS-150 design (produced 1947-1957). Trumpeter incorrectly changed them for wheels for FAW Jie Fang CA-10 – Chinese licensed copy of ZiS-150. Chinese wheels had the same rims, but different tires. Compare.

FAW Jie Fang CA-10
http://www.zr.ru/content/news/370443-hronika_kitajskoje_osvobozhdenije/#


ZiL-164 (deeply upgraded ZiS-150, produced 1957-1964) with correct wheels.
https://www.drive2.ru/b/1613327/
http://driveboom.ru/specifications/zil/zil-164/164-1957/164-28867/



The wheel on the left trailer on the pic above is a standard 4-spoke wheel for ZiL-130 truck (produced 1962-2010).
https://www.autowp.ru/mmz/zil555/6450/pictures/119349/


Aftermarket replacement wheels are produced by Customfactory #CF35012 (be sure to get ones with 8-stud rims, not 6-stud). I’m going to get them for my next SA-2 project.
http://customfactory.org.ua/index.php?option=com_hikashop&ctrl=product&task=show&cid=72&name=----130-133--&Itemid=97&category_pathway=0&lang=ru


The missile. SDW.
http://edokunscalemodelingpage.blogspot.ru/2014/01/egyptian-air-defense-sam-2-launchers.html



Note that the stabilizers are factory gray, the missile was painted with light sand over gray on site, and the technical insignia are still on patches of original gray. The missile is camoed with brown and Russian green. I made my missile an exact copy of this one.

Here is the missile.

Michael, nice start. Your missile came out real good. The camo sure gives it a menace look.

I was able to look through 3 books I have on Israeli military engagements and I did not find any photo or info about capturing Egyptian SA-2 missile carrier. The author does mention of many types of vehicles capture but no SA-2. These books look as if they are from printed in 1970s or 80s and are in Hebrew. We all know, Israel was very secretive about their activities till until recently. Perhaps, internet is to blame for this. Only thing I can think of, the author did not see any evidence at the time of publication to address it in his book. How knows.

Anyway, sorry I couldn't be of extra help. However, I will follow along and see what you can share and if I see anything...I'll sure to share it here

Thanks Michael!

By now, my trailer is almost finished, I’m doing a lot of weathering for this one, and I’ve started fading with oil. I still haven’t started the truck yet.

I am going to proceed with IDF-captured vehicles. I’m thinking on making my GAZ-69A in this way.

That sound good. I'm sure they probably captured several of those along the way

Hey Bro, any update for us? You've been quit for few weeks. So, what's up?

Hello to all. Sorry, guys, lotsa work at my job for now. Ain’t got no time for modeling by far. Will take a while. The trailer’s almost finished, needs a little improvement, and the truck needs one more serious go. I just don’t like taking pics if it’s not done. But I’m definitely gonna finish this one and put pics online.

What? Are you making excuse that your real life is getting in the way of this wonderful plastic model building? That is outrageous, I demand you be taken in front of the high council and be given 40 minus 1 lashes to unease the wrath of the modeling Gods.

Just kidding

Hey, we know how things are. As they say, "take care of what is important and the rest will follow."

Hi Michael. If you scroll down, around the middle you find some pictures that might help with your build...

http://www.fresh.co.il/vBulletin/showthread.php?t=287145&highlight=%F8%F7%22%EE+%EE%F2%F0%E9%E9%EF

Thanks! Great pics! Will definitely help.