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Posted: Wednesday, August 03, 2016 - 03:41 AM UTC
The news from Italeri this August bring two sets of WWI figures at 1/35 scale, from Italian and Austro-Hungarian Armies.
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Ironmike
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Posted: Wednesday, August 03, 2016 - 04:07 AM UTC
This company makes a few decent model kits but most of their figures have been pretty lame over the years. I'd wait to hear from somebody that builds these guys before I fork over any money. Wait and see.
Biggles2
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Posted: Wednesday, August 03, 2016 - 04:18 AM UTC
As for the Austro-Hungarian guys, buy an extra ICM set just for the heads, weapons, and equipment, and you have four more attackers.
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Posted: Wednesday, August 03, 2016 - 04:40 AM UTC
Look very closely at the sprues pictures and you'll see the ICM logo. These are ICM figures and if anything like their other Great War figures are very good .
GarethM
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Posted: Wednesday, August 03, 2016 - 05:15 AM UTC
Finally someone comes out with a good set of Italian soldiers and Italeri has ride on their coattails.
MrCompletely
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Posted: Wednesday, August 03, 2016 - 06:57 AM UTC
They are indeed the ICM figures, all Italeri has done is change the box art by giving them helmets instead of caps.
Bravo1102
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Posted: Wednesday, August 03, 2016 - 09:27 AM UTC
These figures are in uniform mostly appropriate for 1915. By the time helmets were issued they would have all been in wrap puttees and short boots. Not a difficult conversion, but new legs would have been nice for the reissue if they were looking at doing 1916 and later infantry.
Posted: Wednesday, August 03, 2016 - 11:04 AM UTC
Still good to see these subjects.
M4A1Sherman
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Posted: Wednesday, August 03, 2016 - 07:26 PM UTC
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The news from Italeri this August bring two sets of WWI figures at 1/35 scale, from Italian and Austro-Hungarian Armies.
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If you have comments or questions please post them here.
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NICE!!!
A "shout-out" to ICM AND ITALERI:
MORE 1/35 US WWI Doughboys and Marines, PLEASE!!!
Biggles2
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Posted: Wednesday, August 03, 2016 - 07:58 PM UTC
A "shout-out" certainly, to ICM for originally producing their WWl series of extremely well-sculpted figures (maybe the finest so far in plastic); not so much for Revell and Italeri who regularly re-box ICM products because they can't do as well on their own, when, with a little effort and expense, there's no reason they couldn't.
M4A1Sherman
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Posted: Wednesday, August 03, 2016 - 08:23 PM UTC
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A "shout-out" certainly, to ICM for originally producing their WWl series of extremely well-sculpted figures (maybe the finest so far in plastic); not so much for Revell and Italeri who regularly re-box ICM products because they can't do as well on their own, when, with a little effort and expense, there's no reason they couldn't.
I get what you're saying Biggles, but REVELL and ITALERI have a far more diversified product range than ICM, in other words, they have A LOT more irons in the fire, what with HUNDREDS of cars, trucks, aircraft, ships and a boatload of "youth-oriented" stuff that they market.
Sure, it's a lot easier, and less costly to re-box other manufacturer's stuff, rather than "go it alone". After all, TAMIYA has done it too, by re-boxing 1/35 ITALERI and FINE MOLDS armor kits; also 1/48 ITALERI and HASEGAWA aircraft kits. So has TESTORS, when they re-boxed some of the older 1/35 ITALERI and PEERLESS MAX kits. ITALERI has re-boxed a number of 1/48 HASEGAWA aircraft kits as well. The more, the merrier, I guess-
The thing about certain identical re-boxed kits that are still simultaneously manufactured by their "original" makers, is that many times, these "otherwise the same" kits cost us MORE MONEY after they've been "re-boxed"...
A classic example of this is the 1/48 ITALERI Arado Ar.196A Seaplane; I bought the ITALERI kit on ebay for $32.95USD + Shipping on ebay, whereas THE SAME KIT, reboxed by TAMIYA, was selling for $74.95USD + Shipping from the SAME VENDOR!!! I checked around ebay just to see if the same disparate pricing was consistent, and I found that by and large, the TAMIYA re-box of that same kit was, on average, TWICE the price of the original ITALERI kit! I suppose that there is an ass for every seat!!!
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Posted: Thursday, August 04, 2016 - 02:10 AM UTC
this set of italian of ww1. these are ready to fight the imperial austrian army in alps moutain range.
Biggles2
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Posted: Thursday, August 04, 2016 - 04:07 AM UTC
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The thing about certain identical re-boxed kits that are still simultaneously manufactured by their "original" makers, is that many times, these "otherwise the same" kits cost us MORE MONEY after they've been "re-boxed"...
Sometimes this works in reverse. The 1/72 Seehunde, originally marketed by ICM, was reboxed by Revell at over $10 less. But Revell, in various re-incarnations, have 60+ years of plastic molding. The first kit I built was a Revell 190 - something taxi in 1956. I would expect much higher quality by now, than what they are actually doing.
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Posted: Thursday, August 04, 2016 - 05:11 AM UTC
Often it costs more to upgrade and modernize an existing plant than to build something new. So an existing company cannot upgrade while a new company can start off with all the latest gadgets.
Then there's the problems with poor sellers in a big line-up of products. Sure they have their rabid fans but not enough to keep that particular line going. It stinks for us but at the end of the day it's still a business and dedicated builders are a tiny share of the market.
And we've all been told this a dozen times and still feel slighted.
Revell is also sitting on a pile of old molds. Come on, more Rewal ship reissues...
Then there's the problems with poor sellers in a big line-up of products. Sure they have their rabid fans but not enough to keep that particular line going. It stinks for us but at the end of the day it's still a business and dedicated builders are a tiny share of the market.
And we've all been told this a dozen times and still feel slighted.
Revell is also sitting on a pile of old molds. Come on, more Rewal ship reissues...
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Posted: Thursday, August 04, 2016 - 03:45 PM UTC
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Often it costs more to upgrade and modernize an existing plant than to build something new. So an existing company cannot upgrade while a new company can start off with all the latest gadgets.
Then there's the problems with poor sellers in a big line-up of products. Sure they have their rabid fans but not enough to keep that particular line going. It stinks for us but at the end of the day it's still a business and dedicated builders are a tiny share of the market.
And we've all been told this a dozen times and still feel slighted.
Revell is also sitting on a pile of old molds. Come on, more Rewal ship reissues...
Just to add to what Steve just said- It's obviously MUCH CHEAPER for one model company to buy models (or the old original molds) from another model company than it is to invest time and money in R&D, engineering/buying/making NEW molds and related tooling, packaging, (aside of the boxes and instructions with the re-boxing company's name & logo on them), plus overhead, i.e: wages, utilities, etc, and advertising extravaganzas for all-new products, ESPECIALLY if they are buying said models in bulk lots- They would be CRAZY not to. Even if a certain re-boxing flops, it's not as bad as losing your shirt on a "home-grown" project that fails to bring enough profits.
Steve is right when he says that "dedicated modellers" are but a small segment of the overall picture, especially if some of these dedicated modellers confine themselves to an even smaller "niche". I'm talking about the modellers who will build only in a certain scale, and who confine themselves to models of WWII German, or US/Allied, or Soviet AFVs, or Soft-skins, OR strictly "modern" examples of the same. The same goes for the Aircraft, Car or Ship Guys; we ARE a fussy lot, and SOME model manufacturers take full advantage of that. Others could give a flying leap whether we're happy with their wares, or not- Do I dare mention names..?
Also agree with what Biggles wrote in his last post, in that "sometimes the reverse is true" regarding re-boxes, but those are the exceptions to the rule, of which there are not very many. More often than not, the re-boxes cost more money than the originals. Personally, I prefer the originals...
mmeier
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Posted: Thursday, August 04, 2016 - 04:11 PM UTC
I actually like the Italeri/Revell reboxes. Simply because it is a lot easier to get Revell (or to a lesser degree Italerie) here in germany or get the local "Modelbau-Laden"(1) to at least ORDER something from that companies that to get Tamiya or (gasp) ICM. Sure, I can (and more and more do) order Online but still...
And it is not as if they are stealing/copying, ICM gets money for the reboxing so a Win-Win for all.
(1) Actually a dusty corner in the basement of a toy store wedged in between the "ready to use" RC kits and the Märklin railroad kits
And it is not as if they are stealing/copying, ICM gets money for the reboxing so a Win-Win for all.
(1) Actually a dusty corner in the basement of a toy store wedged in between the "ready to use" RC kits and the Märklin railroad kits
Kinggeorges
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Posted: Thursday, August 04, 2016 - 04:44 PM UTC
When you look at italeri own figure sculpture skill, you can easily understand why they get license from ICM.... Creativity 0 though.
I agree with MBR, it ease their availabilty in store. That's the only positive point about this release
Ps: italeri, don't pretend to be original by changing the cap by a helmet.....
Kg
I agree with MBR, it ease their availabilty in store. That's the only positive point about this release
Ps: italeri, don't pretend to be original by changing the cap by a helmet.....
Kg
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Posted: Thursday, August 04, 2016 - 07:14 PM UTC
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Ps: italeri, don't pretend to be original by changing the cap by a helmet.....
Kg