Title says it all.
After a 40 plus year break from building, I will try to start again with the Tamiya M51 Sherman kit.
I am a noob and longtime lurker who has taken the plunge, and am clueless as to even what kind of glue is good!
However, I have wanted to model the Israeli Sherman for many years, and so I just ordered a copy of the Tamiya 35323 M51.
Any advice/guidance to building this kit will be greatly appreciated.
Thank you!
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A noob tries building the Tamiya M51
noobking
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Posted: Thursday, August 11, 2016 - 05:09 AM UTC
Tojo72
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Posted: Thursday, August 11, 2016 - 05:18 AM UTC
I built it a few years ago,not much to say basic shake and bake Tamiya kit.It is a fairly new kit with new molding,builds up very nice,here is an online blog,not mine.
http://modelerssocialclub.proboards.com/thread/3652/building-tamiyas-m51-super-sherman
Here is mine,not as extensive
http://s180.photobucket.com/user/tojo72/library/Tamiya%20Isherman
http://modelerssocialclub.proboards.com/thread/3652/building-tamiyas-m51-super-sherman
Here is mine,not as extensive
http://s180.photobucket.com/user/tojo72/library/Tamiya%20Isherman
noobking
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Posted: Friday, August 12, 2016 - 03:32 AM UTC
What color is appropriate for the M51 Sherman?
Thanks in advance!
Thanks in advance!
noobking
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Posted: Friday, August 12, 2016 - 03:32 AM UTC
Quoted Text
I built it a few years ago,not much to say basic shake and bake Tamiya kit.It is a fairly new kit with new molding,builds up very nice,here is an online blog,not mine.
http://modelerssocialclub.proboards.com/thread/3652/building-tamiyas-m51-super-sherman
Here is mine,not as extensive
http://s180.photobucket.com/user/tojo72/library/Tamiya%20Isherman
Thanks for your reply.
Tojo72
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Posted: Friday, August 12, 2016 - 03:55 AM UTC
Quoted Text
What color is appropriate for the M51 Sherman?
Thanks in advance!
On the advice of someone here,I used Life color UA 90 Sand
FSN 33711
noobking
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Posted: Friday, August 12, 2016 - 05:26 AM UTC
Quoted Text
Quoted TextWhat color is appropriate for the M51 Sherman?
Thanks in advance!
On the advice of someone here,I used Life color UA 90 Sand
FSN 33711
Thanks!
elevenbravo87
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Posted: Friday, August 12, 2016 - 10:13 AM UTC
Great choice of kit. I just finished building this same kit, very straight forward build with few if any issues. I painted mine with Humbrol 072 Khaki Drill, weathered with Tamiya Pastels and stowage by Legend Productions and Verlinden.
Looking forward to seeing your progress.
Some pics.
Looking forward to seeing your progress.
Some pics.
noobking
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Posted: Monday, August 15, 2016 - 05:22 AM UTC
Gentlemen, thank you all very much!
noobking
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Posted: Monday, August 15, 2016 - 05:24 AM UTC
Quoted Text
Great choice of kit. I just finished building this same kit, very straight forward build with few if any issues. I painted mine with Humbrol 072 Khaki Drill, weathered with Tamiya Pastels and stowage by Legend Productions and Verlinden.
Looking forward to seeing your progress.
Some pics.
I do not have an airbrush (though I am contemplating buying one!), thefore I will be hand brushing.
Do you think I could use your method and hand brush?
And, thank you for the info and the great pics - if my build comes out half as nice as yours I will be very happy!
elevenbravo87
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Posted: Monday, August 15, 2016 - 02:48 PM UTC
Quoted Text
Quoted TextGreat choice of kit. I just finished building this same kit, very straight forward build with few if any issues. I painted mine with Humbrol 072 Khaki Drill, weathered with Tamiya Pastels and stowage by Legend Productions and Verlinden.
Looking forward to seeing your progress.
Some pics.
I do not have an airbrush (though I am contemplating buying one!), thefore I will be hand brushing.
Do you think I could use your method and hand brush?
And, thank you for the info and the great pics - if my build comes out half as nice as yours I will be very happy!
Thank you.
If you are using acrylics, I don't see an issue, I airbrushed enamal on the main build, but the figure and stowage was all acrylic and hand brushed. Acrylics seems to "flow" and "lay down" better than enemals to me. All my weathering is done by brushes.
noobking
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Posted: Friday, August 19, 2016 - 04:46 AM UTC
I am considering the Lifecolor (acrylic) Israeli Army Vehicles & Uniform set (Lifecolor product # CS32).
I think I can paint the M51 by Lifecolor's Israeli colors, as I have read that Lifecolor acrylics hand paint well.
Would I need to prime the model first (and if so, what would be a good primer brand and color to go with the Lifecolor Israeli acrylic)?
Apologies for the dumb noob questions, but I am reading so much stuff that my head is spinning trying to get a grip on how to proceed!
And, having a great time in the process!
Thanks to all of you in advance, gentlemen!
I think I can paint the M51 by Lifecolor's Israeli colors, as I have read that Lifecolor acrylics hand paint well.
Would I need to prime the model first (and if so, what would be a good primer brand and color to go with the Lifecolor Israeli acrylic)?
Apologies for the dumb noob questions, but I am reading so much stuff that my head is spinning trying to get a grip on how to proceed!
And, having a great time in the process!
Thanks to all of you in advance, gentlemen!
noobking
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Posted: Friday, August 19, 2016 - 05:16 AM UTC
Quoted Text
Great choice of kit. I just finished building this same kit, very straight forward build with few if any issues. I painted mine with Humbrol 072 Khaki Drill, weathered with Tamiya Pastels and stowage by Legend Productions and Verlinden.
Looking forward to seeing your progress.
Some pics.
Which Tamiya Weathering set did you use?
elevenbravo87
Joined: August 16, 2015
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Posted: Friday, August 19, 2016 - 05:42 AM UTC
Quoted Text
Quoted TextGreat choice of kit. I just finished building this same kit, very straight forward build with few if any issues. I painted mine with Humbrol 072 Khaki Drill, weathered with Tamiya Pastels and stowage by Legend Productions and Verlinden.
Looking forward to seeing your progress.
Some pics.
Which Tamiya Weathering set did you use?
set A and Set C. I primed it with flat black from a spraycan
SSGToms
Joined: April 02, 2005
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Posted: Friday, August 19, 2016 - 08:32 AM UTC
Quoted Text
I am considering the Lifecolor (acrylic) Israeli Army Vehicles & Uniform set (Lifecolor product # CS32).
I think I can paint the M51 by Lifecolor's Israeli colors, as I have read that Lifecolor acrylics hand paint well.
Would I need to prime the model first (and if so, what would be a good primer brand and color to go with the Lifecolor Israeli acrylic)?
Apologies for the dumb noob questions, but I am reading so much stuff that my head is spinning trying to get a grip on how to proceed!
And, having a great time in the process!
Thanks to all of you in advance, gentlemen!
Go ahead and get the Lifecolor set. Lifecolor is excellent paint and happens to be my favorite. You can prime with Krylon grey primer, just go lightly.
For glue, get yourself a bottle of Tamiya Extra Thin Cement; it's the best stuff out there for styrene and you'll love the way it performs.
TopSmith
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Posted: Friday, August 19, 2016 - 09:12 PM UTC
Word of CAUTION. You said you were beginning to model. There are several type of glues you should use. For the majority of your work you do not want a glue that dries in seconds. You will want a glue that gives you a little time to get the part in just the right spot before it sets. If it sets too quick your seams will not fit right or the glue has dried too much by the time you are ready to fit the part.
noobking
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Posted: Monday, August 22, 2016 - 05:09 AM UTC
Quoted Text
Quoted TextI am considering the Lifecolor (acrylic) Israeli Army Vehicles & Uniform set (Lifecolor product # CS32).
I think I can paint the M51 by Lifecolor's Israeli colors, as I have read that Lifecolor acrylics hand paint well.
Would I need to prime the model first (and if so, what would be a good primer brand and color to go with the Lifecolor Israeli acrylic)?
Apologies for the dumb noob questions, but I am reading so much stuff that my head is spinning trying to get a grip on how to proceed!
And, having a great time in the process!
Thanks to all of you in advance, gentlemen!
Go ahead and get the Lifecolor set. Lifecolor is excellent paint and happens to be my favorite. You can prime with Krylon grey primer, just go lightly.
For glue, get yourself a bottle of Tamiya Extra Thin Cement; it's the best stuff out there for styrene and you'll love the way it performs.
Done and done.
Thank you very much!
noobking
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Posted: Monday, August 22, 2016 - 05:10 AM UTC
Quoted Text
Word of CAUTION. You said you were beginning to model. There are several type of glues you should use. For the majority of your work you do not want a glue that dries in seconds. You will want a glue that gives you a little time to get the part in just the right spot before it sets. If it sets too quick your seams will not fit right or the glue has dried too much by the time you are ready to fit the part.
I was going to ask about what type of glue, but didn't, because I thought it would be just another dumb noob question.
Thank you for saving me from making a costly error!
noobking
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Posted: Monday, August 22, 2016 - 05:11 AM UTC
Can I hand brush primer?
If so, what brand/color would be good, considering that the M51 will be painted in Lifecolor acrylic Israeli sand grey?
Or, do I need to even a use primer?
I have run google searches on this, but my search-skills are not yet strong...
If so, what brand/color would be good, considering that the M51 will be painted in Lifecolor acrylic Israeli sand grey?
Or, do I need to even a use primer?
I have run google searches on this, but my search-skills are not yet strong...
noobking
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Posted: Monday, August 22, 2016 - 05:18 AM UTC
Quoted Text
Quoted TextQuoted TextGreat choice of kit. I just finished building this same kit, very straight forward build with few if any issues. I painted mine with Humbrol 072 Khaki Drill, weathered with Tamiya Pastels and stowage by Legend Productions and Verlinden.
Looking forward to seeing your progress.
Some pics.
Which Tamiya Weathering set did you use?
set A and Set C. I primed it with flat black from a spraycan
Thanks for the tip re the weathering kits!
TopSmith
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Posted: Monday, August 22, 2016 - 10:38 AM UTC
Tamiya primer in the spraycan if you don't have an airbrush.
stephenmodel
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Posted: Monday, August 22, 2016 - 05:57 PM UTC
Prime with the tamiya primer then if using a brush do multiple thin layers. The first 2 will look poor but the it will build up to a nice smooth finish.
Also tamiya sell regular colored spray paint. If you can find the color you want i would use that. Same thin though very light coat then let dry for 30 minutes. then repeat and repeat until smooth and even.
http://www.tamiyausa.com/items/paints-amp-finishes-60/tamiya-color-spray-ts-61500
Also tamiya sell regular colored spray paint. If you can find the color you want i would use that. Same thin though very light coat then let dry for 30 minutes. then repeat and repeat until smooth and even.
http://www.tamiyausa.com/items/paints-amp-finishes-60/tamiya-color-spray-ts-61500
ReluctantRenegade
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Posted: Thursday, August 25, 2016 - 01:11 PM UTC
Be careful while using those cans... The paint comes out of them at a hell of a rate, it's easy to overdo...
noobking
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Posted: Friday, August 26, 2016 - 01:56 AM UTC
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Be careful while using those cans... The paint comes out of them at a hell of a rate, it's easy to overdo...
Never have used a can like this.
Is it possible to hand brush primer?
Edit: Thanks for the tip!
ReluctantRenegade
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Posted: Saturday, August 27, 2016 - 05:48 PM UTC
You don't really need a coat of primer if you use Tamiya's TS rattle cans, but l don't think their range includes the right color for an Israeli M51...
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