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Armor/AFV: IDF [Israeli Defense Forces]
Armor and AFVs of the IDF army from 1947-today.
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Wehrmacht armor used by Syria
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Posted: Wednesday, September 07, 2016 - 10:38 AM UTC
Maybe this contains some previously unknown images.
https://wwiiafterwwii.wordpress.com/2016/09/04/panzers-in-the-golan-heights/
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Posted: Wednesday, September 07, 2016 - 11:17 AM UTC
Didn't know till now that there have been other AFVs used aside from the Pz IVs and StuGs. Thanks for sharing.
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Posted: Wednesday, September 07, 2016 - 11:24 AM UTC
Wow. Thanks for the link, it was very interesting to read. I had no idea that Syria operated the Hummel!
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Posted: Wednesday, September 07, 2016 - 11:36 AM UTC
Excellent site. Very interesting all the sources of Syrian panzers. I remember the first Dragon Jagdpanzer IV L/48 kit came with the Syrian markings.

I saw on another site that Dragon's Pzkpfw IV Ausf. D with L/48 gun was close to several of the Syrian Frankenstein panzers.
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Posted: Wednesday, September 07, 2016 - 11:44 AM UTC
HermannB, thanks so much for this link! Fascinating history to say the least! I knew Syria operated the MK IV but not the other vehicles, especially the Jagdpanzer IV.

Keep it coming!

Bill
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Posted: Wednesday, September 07, 2016 - 12:00 PM UTC
Allways welcome guys.
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Posted: Wednesday, September 07, 2016 - 12:22 PM UTC
Very nice!!
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Posted: Wednesday, September 07, 2016 - 01:59 PM UTC
Fascinating article. I knew that the Syrians had used Panzer IV's but didn't know about the others. I always wondered where they'd got them from. I incorrectly thought the Russians considering the amount of captured German war materiel they hung onto in storage. It would be interesting to know if they'ves still got anything hidden away in one of their many storage depots. I remember in the 1990's they flooded the deactivated weapon market with captured WW2 German Kar 98k's which I'll always regret not buying they were so cheap. I'm surprised that noone has tried to recover any of these knocked out vehicles for restoration but as they're now in Israeli occupied territory I'd imagine it would be problematic.
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Posted: Wednesday, September 07, 2016 - 02:06 PM UTC
israel (or syria) should have the panzers sold to collector or movie studio.
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Posted: Wednesday, September 07, 2016 - 02:42 PM UTC

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israel (or syria) should have the panzers sold to collector or movie studio.


In the original linkef article there's a picture of a Czech one that went to Syria and captured by the Israelis. It is now in the US being restored.
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Posted: Thursday, September 08, 2016 - 02:45 AM UTC
Hi, very interesting article! Thanks for posting
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Posted: Thursday, September 08, 2016 - 03:43 AM UTC
I had already seen most of the photos and I knew the story but here have more 'details and the site has a mine of information nice the articles about Nazi guns in Viet-Nam war
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Posted: Thursday, September 08, 2016 - 07:26 AM UTC
Aloha!!!!

Interesting article indeed. Stay tuned we might see some Russian Spetnaz taking a selfie next to a Panzer IV in Aleppo. One that was being currently used!!
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Posted: Thursday, September 08, 2016 - 07:48 AM UTC
Very informative link, Thanks
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Posted: Thursday, September 08, 2016 - 08:47 AM UTC
I never thought these vehicles would last so long in service. I guess most panzer components WERE reliable and the panzer IV had viable fightability.
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Posted: Thursday, September 08, 2016 - 09:06 AM UTC

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I never thought these vehicles would last so long in service. I guess most panzer components WERE reliable and the panzer IV had viable fightability.



But note it was the panzer IV, not the much vaunted Panther. The Panther was unreliable and really needed a whole new drive train.
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Posted: Thursday, September 08, 2016 - 01:16 PM UTC
been going to that site for sometime,they do have some great articles.yet at least one of those big questions did also get answered too,cuba never got no panzer iv from anybody before castro took power.
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Posted: Thursday, September 08, 2016 - 10:48 PM UTC
Very informative, thanks for the link!
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Posted: Thursday, September 08, 2016 - 11:05 PM UTC

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israel (or syria) should have the panzers sold to collector or movie studio.



We'll, I don't think many Syrian Pz.lV's survived the '67 war anyway... As for the Israelis, they did the right thing: restored (some of) the captured Panzers and placed them in Latrun for anybody who's interested to see them...

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yad_La-Shiryon#
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