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Kencelot
Joined: December 27, 2001
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Posted: Friday, February 13, 2004 - 07:36 AM UTC
Now why hasn't someone thought of this sooner?! They look to be pretty darn good. I may have to get a set for further tests.
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matt
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Posted: Friday, February 13, 2004 - 07:37 AM UTC
HMmmmmm the possibilites!!!!
Paul
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Posted: Friday, February 13, 2004 - 08:08 AM UTC
Looks very cool, I haven't used any yet, however I am conserned that the weave might be too big for the scale
LemonJello
Joined: January 29, 2004
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Posted: Friday, February 13, 2004 - 08:19 AM UTC
I made some with model railroad ballast and tissue paper, from an article in FSM, and they turned out pretty good. It's a process that tested my patience, but the result was worth it. If I can find some pics, I'll try to post them.
chip250
Joined: September 01, 2002
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Posted: Friday, February 13, 2004 - 08:23 AM UTC
Yeah, but they probably cost a hundred dollars for three of them. THey are nice though
~Chip :-)
~Chip :-)
HeavyArty
Joined: May 16, 2002
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Posted: Friday, February 13, 2004 - 08:26 AM UTC
They look too big to me and the weave pattern is too large as well. Best bet is to make them out of putty and press with an old t-shirt for texture or cover with white glue coated tissue paper.
Kencelot
Joined: December 27, 2001
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Posted: Friday, February 13, 2004 - 08:28 AM UTC
I found them listed at $12 for 12 of them. I think I agree with Paul and Gino about the weave being too large for 1/35th.
Oh well.
Oh well.
tazz
Joined: July 21, 2002
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Posted: Friday, February 13, 2004 - 08:35 AM UTC
they look good.
but rember the zoom on the camera is makeing the weave pattern
look big. so i would like to se a pic not zoomed in
but rember the zoom on the camera is makeing the weave pattern
look big. so i would like to se a pic not zoomed in
melon
Joined: November 21, 2003
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Posted: Friday, February 13, 2004 - 08:41 AM UTC
Looks like sacks of gold.
Perhaps a dio based on that Clint Eastwood/Telly Sevalis movie, can think of it right now. Something about stolen german gold, behind enemy lines ect ect.
Perhaps a dio based on that Clint Eastwood/Telly Sevalis movie, can think of it right now. Something about stolen german gold, behind enemy lines ect ect.
PvtParts
Joined: June 18, 2003
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Posted: Friday, February 13, 2004 - 08:50 AM UTC
Kellys Heroes
melon
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Posted: Friday, February 13, 2004 - 08:51 AM UTC
Bingo
slodder
Joined: February 22, 2002
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Posted: Friday, February 13, 2004 - 08:53 AM UTC
They remind me of Doll House type items. The weave does strike me as a bit to broad/thick.
But man I just had an idea - go to a local sewing shop, get some nice fine material and make your own.
If you want 12 1" by 1/2" bags get a piece of cloth 14" by 1.25"
Fold the cloth length wize and run a seam down the long side (using the .25"). Then run a seam at one end, move up an inch at a time and run another seam. Now cut the tube just below seam to create a bag. Turn inside out and fill with dirt/litter/whatever, leave room to tie tight with thread.
You can also make seams along both sides if you want.
But man I just had an idea - go to a local sewing shop, get some nice fine material and make your own.
If you want 12 1" by 1/2" bags get a piece of cloth 14" by 1.25"
Fold the cloth length wize and run a seam down the long side (using the .25"). Then run a seam at one end, move up an inch at a time and run another seam. Now cut the tube just below seam to create a bag. Turn inside out and fill with dirt/litter/whatever, leave room to tie tight with thread.
You can also make seams along both sides if you want.
Halfyank
Joined: February 01, 2003
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Posted: Friday, February 13, 2004 - 09:27 AM UTC
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But man I just had an idea - go to a local sewing shop, get some nice fine material and make your own.
If you want 12 1" by 1/2" bags get a piece of cloth 14" by 1.25"
Fold the cloth length wize and run a seam down the long side (using the .25"). Then run a seam at one end, move up an inch at a time and run another seam. Now cut the tube just below seam to create a bag. Turn inside out and fill with dirt/litter/whatever, leave room to tie tight with thread.
You can also make seams along both sides if you want.
Hmmm... I've got a daughter in home ec. I wonder what she'd want as a bribe to make up some of these? Nah, she'd probably just laugh at me.
TreadHead
Joined: January 12, 2002
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Posted: Friday, February 13, 2004 - 09:55 AM UTC
Aaaaarggghhh! Matey!
To answer your question....SCALE!
I agree with both HeavyArty and slodder. They do not look believable. Just one example would be the 'rope' tieing the bags shut. I'm willing to bet, if you put a C.T.T. 1/35th scale ruler on the rope, it would scale out to a piece of rope approx. 2 and 1/2 inches thick! Kinda like a helo rapelling rope.
But....the other idea has merit!
Tread.
Dang HalfYank!......Your banner is stunning! :-)
I have to put my sunglasses on to look at it!
To answer your question....SCALE!
I agree with both HeavyArty and slodder. They do not look believable. Just one example would be the 'rope' tieing the bags shut. I'm willing to bet, if you put a C.T.T. 1/35th scale ruler on the rope, it would scale out to a piece of rope approx. 2 and 1/2 inches thick! Kinda like a helo rapelling rope.
But....the other idea has merit!
Tread.
Dang HalfYank!......Your banner is stunning! :-)
I have to put my sunglasses on to look at it!
Katyusha
Joined: January 02, 2004
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Posted: Friday, February 13, 2004 - 10:33 AM UTC
They look really good.....but how do you make them? could you tell us? 
-Katyusha-
-Katyusha-
animal
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Posted: Friday, February 13, 2004 - 12:01 PM UTC
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I like your thinking. I am going to give your suggestion a go. Thanks for sharing your thought again They remind me of Doll House type items. The weave does strike me as a bit to broad/thick.
But man I just had an idea - go to a local sewing shop, get some nice fine material and make your own.
If you want 12 1" by 1/2" bags get a piece of cloth 14" by 1.25"
Fold the cloth length Wise and run a seam down the long side (using the .25"). Then run a seam at one end, move up an inch at a time and run another seam. Now cut the tube just below seam to create a bag. Turn inside out and fill with dirt/litter/whatever, leave room to tie tight with thread.
You can also make seams along both sides if you want.
TUGA
#034
Joined: April 26, 2002
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Posted: Friday, February 13, 2004 - 11:37 PM UTC
Hi,
here you have more photos of the sand bags - http://www.jadar.com.pl/jadar-group/armo35/ma35001/page_01.htm
here you have more photos of the sand bags - http://www.jadar.com.pl/jadar-group/armo35/ma35001/page_01.htm
greatbrit
Joined: May 14, 2003
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Posted: Friday, February 13, 2004 - 11:54 PM UTC
i agree they do look much too big for 1/35 both in size, and the weave.
maybe they would be better for 1/25 etc
cheers
joe
maybe they would be better for 1/25 etc
cheers
joe
keenan
Joined: October 16, 2002
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Posted: Saturday, February 14, 2004 - 12:27 AM UTC
The article Lemon is referring to was by Bob Collignon. It was a special two part article in two separate issues where he built and detailed a Sherman. I can find the issue numbers if anyone wants them. I made some of those sand bags, too. You essentially make your own bag out of tissue paper, fill it with fine sand, and tie it shut. Then you paint them with white and water, and add damage if you want. They get rock hand when the glue dries so you better have them where you want them. I only tried it once and thought they looked okay but folding and gluing those bags together is really tedious.
Bad photo of my first and only attempt below. (I think the bags are a little too big...)
Hope this isn't really
Shaun
Bad photo of my first and only attempt below. (I think the bags are a little too big...)
Hope this isn't really
Shaun
scoccia
Joined: September 02, 2002
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Posted: Saturday, February 14, 2004 - 03:30 AM UTC
I agree with the others saying that they are "oversized" for the 1/35 scale. I also gave a try some time ago to the FSM mentioned method. A bit boring but the result is superb!
Ciao
Ciao
sharpshooter
Joined: December 12, 2003
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Posted: Saturday, February 14, 2004 - 05:32 AM UTC
I find them too big. By the way they appera too light, like pillows while they should stack on each other leaving no air between.
If they were real I think they should weight 40 to 60 kgs at least..
Ciao to evrybody and to Scoccia too, finally an italian modeller. Where do you live in Milano?
sharpshooter
If they were real I think they should weight 40 to 60 kgs at least..
Ciao to evrybody and to Scoccia too, finally an italian modeller. Where do you live in Milano?
sharpshooter
ShermiesRule
Joined: December 11, 2003
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Posted: Saturday, February 14, 2004 - 07:53 AM UTC
I think they would be perfect for a bunker type setup. Throw some dirt and mud on it and cover up some of the weave. If they muddied up the bunker in the sample photos it might be ok
scoccia
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Posted: Saturday, February 14, 2004 - 08:20 AM UTC
Absolutely
First of all welcome aboard Sharpshooter! I've just PM you with my details... Glad to have another Italian on board!!! Why don't you post an intro about yourself in the Introductions forum?
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Ciao to evrybody and to Scoccia too, finally an italian modeller. Where do you live in Milano?
First of all welcome aboard Sharpshooter! I've just PM you with my details... Glad to have another Italian on board!!! Why don't you post an intro about yourself in the Introductions forum?
kkeefe
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Posted: Saturday, February 14, 2004 - 09:36 AM UTC
They look too korny for me. For the price of a dozen of those, I probably could get thousands out of modeling clay, sewing thread and a little time.
I made over 200 for this little vignette, didn't even put a dent in the box of self-hardening clay or my wife's sewing basket.....
I made over 200 for this little vignette, didn't even put a dent in the box of self-hardening clay or my wife's sewing basket.....
Neill
Joined: May 26, 2003
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Posted: Saturday, February 14, 2004 - 10:49 AM UTC
These are the tissue filled with sand/HO railroad ballast
this is the way I Am going from now on. Hard for my less then nimble fingers and time consuming, but I like the results.
Master Sergeant kkeefe - Great Looking 120MM Pit, great sand bags and a super job with that red Vietnam mud they call soil -
John
www.johnneill.com
this is the way I Am going from now on. Hard for my less then nimble fingers and time consuming, but I like the results.
Master Sergeant kkeefe - Great Looking 120MM Pit, great sand bags and a super job with that red Vietnam mud they call soil -
John
www.johnneill.com
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