Gino, did arty pieces in the Korean war use alot of gaudy markings?
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HeavyArty
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BTW, what is that new US Army-looking Truck amidst the other TRUMPETER kits?
M915 long-haul tractor.
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Gino, did arty pieces in the Korean war use alot of gaudy markings?
There weren't a lot of colorful markings, but I would like some more than the same ones as the AFV Club M40 kit offers.
panamadan
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M4A1Sherman
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Quoted TextBTW, what is that new US Army-looking Truck amidst the other TRUMPETER kits?
M915 long-haul tractor.Quoted TextGino, did arty pieces in the Korean war use alot of gaudy markings?
There weren't a lot of colorful markings, but I would like some more than the same ones as the AFV Club M40 kit offers.
THANKS, Gino, regarding the M915!
Re: More markings for the new TAMIYA M40- I'm sure the aftermarket boys will be able to accommodate you, possibly even BEFORE that M40 actually starts showing up on hobby shops' shelves! It should prove to be a popular model, judging from the photos that Hisham posted...
Cantstopbuyingkits
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Posted: Saturday, September 24, 2016 - 10:12 PM UTC
I thought the gaudy markings on US vehicles were supposed to scare the Chinese soldiers [due to some zodiac related reasons IIRC], so they would not be applied on SPGs operating miles behind the front lines.
Bigred69
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Posted: Sunday, September 25, 2016 - 12:35 AM UTC
The original makers of the M915 was CCC(Crane Carrier Corporation), after that the where made by AM General, now they are made by Freightliner. The new version is the M915A5. I see them on the road in Germany.
pmontero
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Posted: Sunday, September 25, 2016 - 01:46 AM UTC
The figures of the Tamiya M40 can be used in a WW2 scene or only for Korea?
HeavyArty
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Posted: Sunday, September 25, 2016 - 03:00 AM UTC
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I thought the gaudy markings on US vehicles were supposed to scare the Chinese soldiers [due to some zodiac related reasons IIRC], so they would not be applied on SPGs operating miles behind the front lines.
Again you show your ignorance of armored warfare, artillery operations, and the military in general. Artillery does not operate miles behind the front lines. Artillery units are usually a kilometer or less behind the forward most units so that most of their range is well beyond the front line. This is so they can engage the enemy before they reach friendly forces. There are many cases of artillery units becoming the front lines due to the lines shifting during battle. Many times they have to fire in the direct fire mode or sue beehive and flachette rounds against advancing armor and infantry to avoid being overrun.
As far as the colorful schemes in Korea applied to tanks, it was due to a perceived fear of tigers by the Chinese soldiers. Tanks had tiger faces and stripes painted on them for this reason since they were most often the assault troops attaching Chinese positions. In later interviews with Chinese soldiers, they were not scared of the tigers painted onto the tanks, but just of giant tanks running over them, so the paint jobs were in vain.
bramah4
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Posted: Monday, September 26, 2016 - 12:32 AM UTC
Thanks so much for posting all these pics Hishan. Is there a site or link with more of the other player's products including Dragon and HobbyBoss?
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Posted: Monday, September 26, 2016 - 01:34 AM UTC
Thank you for posting these new releases 
The 728 and M40 are must haves; the figures with the M40 look very nice as well. Any idea if the M113 has an interior? Was hard to tell from the sprue shots.
The 728 and M40 are must haves; the figures with the M40 look very nice as well. Any idea if the M113 has an interior? Was hard to tell from the sprue shots.
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Posted: Monday, September 26, 2016 - 02:54 AM UTC
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Thank you for posting these new releases
I did notice some seats for the commanders copula in the the sprue shots, but I don't know how much of an interior its going to have.
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Posted: Monday, September 26, 2016 - 05:16 AM UTC
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The figures of the Tamiya M40 can be used in a WW2 scene or only for Korea?
They're in pretty generic uniforms and with mostly unbloused boots so they could be anywhere.
Considering that the M40 in World War II was used in the last weeks of the war and that troops in Korea wore mostly World War II leftovers the answer is yes.
Heck, I even found a picture of a couple of guys wearing the M41 Parsons jacket. How dare they. Didn't they know they are not supposed to be wearing that?
"Whatever is available will be used, rivet counting model builders go to blazes."
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Posted: Monday, September 26, 2016 - 05:17 AM UTC
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Again you show your ignorance of armored warfare, artillery operations, and the military in general.
Wow... Just wow.
Bravo1102
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Again you show your ignorance of armored warfare, artillery operations, and the military in general.
Wow... Just wow.
Frustration.
It happens.
HeavyArty
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Posted: Monday, September 26, 2016 - 05:25 AM UTC
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Again you show your ignorance of armored warfare, artillery operations, and the military in general.
Wow... Just wow.
Don't be so surprised, he does it often.
Cantstopbuyingkits
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Posted: Monday, September 26, 2016 - 11:05 PM UTC
*sigh* No, Gino, I have shown and will continue to show knowledge of the working of military subject. An 155mm gun had a range of nearly 13 miles, so it could clearly fire on positions ahead of front lines even when a few miles behind it. Why would this [large] vehicle have 13mm thick armor and next to no general purpose armament if they were to be operating at near visible distance?
HeavyArty
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Posted: Monday, September 26, 2016 - 11:26 PM UTC
They were not designed to be attacking as the lead elements, that is why they are defensively armed and armored. They are employed near the front lines though, not miles behind, as you assert.
I have been an active duty US Army artilleryman for almost 23 years and know how it is actually employed. I've done it in combat myself. What are your credentials?
I have been an active duty US Army artilleryman for almost 23 years and know how it is actually employed. I've done it in combat myself. What are your credentials?
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