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Backdating a Bren Carrier to Mk I
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Posted: Thursday, September 22, 2016 - 06:23 PM UTC
Does anyone know what would be needed to backdate Tamiya's Universal Carrier Europe kit, which is a Mk II, to a Mk I?
I have seen that the front armour is simplified and the rear part is different, although have not found clear pics of it.

I am aware of the Riich Model kit, but do not want to mess with 700+ parts for such a small vehicle...

Thanks!
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Posted: Thursday, September 22, 2016 - 06:43 PM UTC

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but do not want to mess with 700+ parts for such a small vehicle...


How many ?! You gotta be kidding...Does the kit include a fully working engine in 1/35 ?
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Posted: Thursday, September 22, 2016 - 08:37 PM UTC
Mike Roof did an excellent build (either here on on Tracklink) of the Riich kit which might help when it comes to comparing parts. Osprey New Vanguard 110 by David Fletcher also covered the Universal and is not expensive. As I recall, he covers some of the differences between marks in it.
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Posted: Thursday, September 22, 2016 - 08:41 PM UTC
OK, my fault, I think I read it somewhere but I was wrong... it's "only" about 635, according to PMMS:

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442 parts in grey plastic (60 of those for the link and length track)
25 parts in grey plastic for the three crew figures
6 parts in clear plastic
130 etched brass parts
10 x 18mm lengths of thin brass tube
16 springs (small)
16 springs (large)
1 length of twine
1 length of fine chain


There is an InBox review by Darren Baker here

See why I am looking for something simpler?
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Posted: Thursday, September 22, 2016 - 08:59 PM UTC

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OK, my fault, I think I read it somewhere but I was wrong... it's "only" about 635


Still a daunting number of parts for such a small kit...


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See why I am looking for something simpler?


Oh yeah, mate...I'm with you...
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Posted: Thursday, September 22, 2016 - 10:09 PM UTC

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Does anyone know what would be needed to backdate Tamiya's Universal Carrier Europe kit, which is a Mk II, to a Mk I?
I have seen that the front armour is simplified and the rear part is different, although have not found clear pics of it.

I am aware of the Riich Model kit, but do not want to mess with 700+ parts for such a small vehicle...

Thanks!


Just buy the Riich kit. I was looking at doing the same thing a few years ago and ended up buying the Resicast conversion. Its not as simple as it looks. There are some differences in the front plate, rear, and with the engine hatches and lights if I remember correctly.

John
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Posted: Saturday, September 24, 2016 - 09:56 PM UTC
Thanks all for the comments, I will try to gather some info from the Osprey book, Resicast conversion and Riich kit to see if it is feasible to do it myself... If not I will forget the project.

It is not interesting enough for me to spend so much work on the Riich model...
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