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Dragon secret item announcement
MikeyBugs95
Joined: May 27, 2013
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Posted: Friday, September 30, 2016 - 05:43 AM UTC
From what I've heard, the 155mm gun and necessary changes to the mantlet are the only changes. To my eye, the 155mm gun looks short but I don't know.
KurtLaughlin
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Posted: Friday, September 30, 2016 - 06:23 AM UTC
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To my eye, the 155mm gun looks short . . .
Compared to what? It's utter fantasy. It does not have a counterpart in the rational universe.
KL
Bravo1102
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Posted: Friday, September 30, 2016 - 07:27 AM UTC
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Looks like dragon has a new T95 with a 155mm gun coming out. Wonder if they corrected any of its isues???
I think that's the second time that precise question has been asked in this thread. Of course they didn't, it's an utter fantasy as previously said. It's in MERDC camouflage on the box top for heaven sakes!
M4A1Sherman
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Posted: Friday, September 30, 2016 - 08:00 AM UTC
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Looks like dragon has a new T95 with a 155mm gun coming out. Wonder if they corrected any of its isues???
WHY on earth would they want to?
Are you looking for DRAGON to set a precedent for themselves..?
MikeyBugs95
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Posted: Friday, September 30, 2016 - 08:14 AM UTC
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Compared to what? It's utter fantasy. It does not have a counterpart in the rational universe.
KL
While the T28/95 never mounted a 155mm gun, the T30 did. It's reasonable to assume that if (and considering this is a fantasy version) the T28/95 mounted a 155mm gun, however false and unlikely, it would be the same T7/T7E1 that the T30 mounted. Hence, you could compare the size of the kit gun to the size of the actual gun on the T30 and, to my eye, the 155mm gun in this kit looks short and the blast deflector incorrect compared to the T7/T7E1.
M4A1Sherman
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Posted: Friday, September 30, 2016 - 08:40 AM UTC
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Quoted TextQuoted TextQuoted TextQuoted Textking tiger fought on crimean? this is first time I ever hear of KT fought in crimean.
Of course it did. Together with the 1/16 AT-AT and a 1/35 rear echelon Death Star.
THAT'S TRUE!!! It was during the famous "Charge of the Light Brigade"!!! THOSE were "the Good Old Days!"
I have yet to summon the courage to ask the rangers at Civil War sites: "Where were the Confederate Tiger tanks?"
KL
Davey Crockett and Jim Bowie were there alongside the KT, backs against the bar counter, making a heroic next-to-last stand fighting off Santa Anna's dwarf clown infantry as they wuz pourin' onto the beach off them Mexican Air Force triremes. Jim felt bad because he had to shoot the KT. It broke a track.
The Confederate Tigers were occupied at the time in putting down the "Boxer Rebellion", when along came Captain Horatio Hornblower, who gave them all "A Sniff of Powder"... (and, NO, I don't mean "Coke", either)
Dioramartin
Joined: May 04, 2016
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Posted: Friday, September 30, 2016 - 09:48 AM UTC
Actually I've just got hold of the box-art for Dragon's Confederate Tigers, but I'm not sure if it'll cause a storm across the US of A because it shows the R*b*l Fl*g, so I'm withholding it pending legal advice. Is that totally illegal yet? Maybe there are exemptions for historically accurate depictions, the box-art seems to be representing Pickett's Charge which as we know failed because the Rebs ran out of coal.
Headhunter506
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Posted: Friday, September 30, 2016 - 10:17 AM UTC
The Charge wasn't approved by Diner's Club, thus dooming the entire operation from the outset. The lack of coal was due to the fact that his men were non-Union workers and the stevedores, who were teamsters, refused to cross the Pickett Line.
JSSVIII
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Posted: Friday, September 30, 2016 - 03:21 PM UTC
Well its October 1st, anyone heard anything? all I can find is the sound of crickets.
th_berlin
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Posted: Friday, September 30, 2016 - 07:26 PM UTC
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Dragon's Secret item: a kit that actually builds without issue.
Well, then it wouldn't be announced on 1st October, but on 1st April, because such a kit will NEVER hit the shelves...
JSSVIII
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Posted: Friday, September 30, 2016 - 09:53 PM UTC
Nice one Thomas!!!
bots1141
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Posted: Saturday, October 01, 2016 - 04:05 AM UTC
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Well its October 1st, anyone heard anything? all I can find is the sound of crickets.
I was wondering the same thing!?!
KurtLaughlin
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Posted: Saturday, October 01, 2016 - 06:34 AM UTC
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Well its October 1st, anyone heard anything? all I can find is the sound of crickets.
Good Lord, the OP said it would be on sale this October. There are still 30 days left in the month.
You realize that this sort of manufactured anticipation is exactly what DML was hoping for when they mentioned a "secret release"? You bought it hook, line, and sinker.
KL
JSSVIII
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Posted: Saturday, October 01, 2016 - 07:33 AM UTC
I'm sorry Kurt, I was going by this:
"Nope, neither of those (I hope). They say it is an all-new something in 1/35th scale. Sales start on October 1-st, the National day of PRC."
and nobody has bought anything yet, we don't even know what it is yet, LOL.
In all seriousness, I AM excited to see a new release, it might not be something I am interested in, but then again maybe it might be one of my "Holy Grail" items, who knows, but I prefer to see the FUN in it. My sincere apologies if I'm wrong but, you seem to treat it as some kind of scam "You bought it hook, line, and sinker" and I respect that, if I was standing in line for hours/days, or had prepaid for the item unseen, I would agree with you completely, but since I did not, I'm just enjoying the fun of anticipation.
"Nope, neither of those (I hope). They say it is an all-new something in 1/35th scale. Sales start on October 1-st, the National day of PRC."
and nobody has bought anything yet, we don't even know what it is yet, LOL.
In all seriousness, I AM excited to see a new release, it might not be something I am interested in, but then again maybe it might be one of my "Holy Grail" items, who knows, but I prefer to see the FUN in it. My sincere apologies if I'm wrong but, you seem to treat it as some kind of scam "You bought it hook, line, and sinker" and I respect that, if I was standing in line for hours/days, or had prepaid for the item unseen, I would agree with you completely, but since I did not, I'm just enjoying the fun of anticipation.
Dioramartin
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Posted: Saturday, October 01, 2016 - 08:38 AM UTC
So here it is at last, and as Kurt L. suspected – possible Dragon glitches already though, there’s no evidence the Texas Brigade joined Pickett’s charge after the action at Devil’s Den the day before, and was Pickett’s tank really 311, or was it 007 commandeered from Pettigrew’s 26th North Carolina regiment?
How different history might have been if he’d carried Amex instead of DC. But enough of all this speculation, where’s nurse?
How different history might have been if he’d carried Amex instead of DC. But enough of all this speculation, where’s nurse?
jasegreene
Joined: October 21, 2013
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Posted: Saturday, October 01, 2016 - 09:26 AM UTC
oh no!!!what's next,pac-man when he was at the battle of gettysburg?
Headhunter506
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Posted: Saturday, October 01, 2016 - 10:06 AM UTC
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oh no!!!what's next,pac-man when he was at the battle of gettysburg?
Pacman never took part in the battle. He was suspended for the entire 1863 season as of a result of an incident at a Vegas strip club.
hugohuertas
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Posted: Saturday, October 01, 2016 - 04:49 PM UTC
The ideas in this post are far most interesting than Dragon's latest releases....
joepanzer
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Posted: Saturday, October 01, 2016 - 05:53 PM UTC
couldn't have been Vegas.
Had to have been AC
Had to have been AC
HermannB
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Posted: Saturday, October 01, 2016 - 06:01 PM UTC
Can anyone image what would have happenend at Waterloo if Napoleon licence build Leonardo da Vinci`s gun"tank"?
http://www.italeri.com/scheda.asp?idProdotto=1914&idCategoria=16&idSottocategoria=0
http://www.italeri.com/scheda.asp?idProdotto=1914&idCategoria=16&idSottocategoria=0
M4A1Sherman
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Posted: Saturday, October 01, 2016 - 06:53 PM UTC
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Tiger 1 from sPzAbt 101, Normandy July 1944. With the distinctive shorn bolt on the left rear mudguard. Filling a critical hole in WW2 AFV's. . . .
M4A1Sherman
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Posted: Saturday, October 01, 2016 - 07:03 PM UTC
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So here it is at last, and as Kurt L. suspected – possible Dragon glitches already though, there’s no evidence the Texas Brigade joined Pickett’s charge after the action at Devil’s Den the day before, and was Pickett’s tank really 311, or was it 007 commandeered from Pettigrew’s 26th North Carolina regiment?
How different history might have been if he’d carried Amex instead of DC. But enough of all this speculation, where’s nurse?
AHHH! A steam-powered "Late-Production" Tiger I, erroneously labelled as "Early-Production" on the box cover! Gotta hand it to those boys at DRAGON- Their brand of "attention to detail" has NO peers...
I wonder if DRAGON included the proper "black-powder" muzzle-loading MG-34s aboard this Tiger..?
KurtLaughlin
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Posted: Saturday, October 01, 2016 - 07:56 PM UTC
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I'm sorry Kurt, I was going by this:
"Nope, neither of those (I hope). They say it is an all-new something in 1/35th scale. Sales start on October 1-st, the National day of PRC."
and nobody has bought anything yet, we don't even know what it is yet, LOL.
In all seriousness, I AM excited to see a new release, it might not be something I am interested in, but then again maybe it might be one of my "Holy Grail" items, who knows, but I prefer to see the FUN in it. My sincere apologies if I'm wrong but, you seem to treat it as some kind of scam "You bought it hook, line, and sinker" and I respect that, if I was standing in line for hours/days, or had prepaid for the item unseen, I would agree with you completely, but since I did not, I'm just enjoying the fun of anticipation.
The "scam" is that DML did nothing but they got all kinds of people talking about it. Free advertising and manufactured anticipation about . . . Well, nothing really. All we know is the scale, but everyone is projecting their individual hopes and dreams upon it. What's even more bizarre is that DML's recent releases have been nearly uniformly panned. If I learned that my "holy grail" was coming from DML, I can't say that I would view that as a certain good thing . . .
KL
hugohuertas
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Posted: Saturday, October 01, 2016 - 08:01 PM UTC
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If I learned that my "holy grail" was coming from DML, I can't say that I would view that as a certain good thing . . .
KL
I can't do anything but second this!!!
Hederstierna
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Posted: Saturday, October 01, 2016 - 08:02 PM UTC
Blah blah blah, you're all sooo wrong.
I know what it is and it's not a vehicle at all. Dragon is pulling your legs with all these phony shots of this and that.
The real release is going to be, drum whirl please......
A complete collection of ALL the pointing fingers Dragons ever made. It's going to be HUGE.
Dragon Model has gambled all their money on this one production, and this will end all other model manufacturers for good.
Jacob
I know what it is and it's not a vehicle at all. Dragon is pulling your legs with all these phony shots of this and that.
The real release is going to be, drum whirl please......
A complete collection of ALL the pointing fingers Dragons ever made. It's going to be HUGE.
Dragon Model has gambled all their money on this one production, and this will end all other model manufacturers for good.
Jacob
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