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Modifying the Black and White technique
jps
Wisconsin, United States
Joined: February 06, 2006
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Posted: Sunday, October 02, 2016 - 05:40 PM UTC
I have a Abrams built as a Tusk II I plan on trying the "Black and White technique". It will be in overall sand color and I am considering modifying the technique use shades of brown and lightening to an off white. Has anyone tried this and have any comments?
Posted: Sunday, October 02, 2016 - 06:42 PM UTC
I have sort of modified it, on my SU-76i I used Dark Yellow and pre-shaded with Black, followed by a light coat of Ammo by Mig Russian Base. In my opinion, the Dark Yellow provided a better base for the Russian Green.
varanusk
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Santa Cruz de Tenerife, Spain / Espaņa
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Posted: Sunday, October 02, 2016 - 06:42 PM UTC
While I have not tried myself, I guess it will produce a more subtle effect.
Personally, I would recommend you to go ahead and experiment
Personally, I would recommend you to go ahead and experiment
jps
Wisconsin, United States
Joined: February 06, 2006
KitMaker: 147 posts
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Joined: February 06, 2006
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Posted: Sunday, October 02, 2016 - 09:11 PM UTC
Thanks Carlos.
Subtlety in my real life and my modeling can be a bit of a problem for me
I strive to avoid a caricature effect where "Pop" is the primary goal as is often times the goal today in modeling. I also try to get a bit of pop without over doing it. Failure is an option.
A friend, with an art background, suggested to think in terms of complimentary colors and consider using purples to balance the yellow. Not sure how I feel about that maybe I will do some test work.
Subtlety in my real life and my modeling can be a bit of a problem for me
I strive to avoid a caricature effect where "Pop" is the primary goal as is often times the goal today in modeling. I also try to get a bit of pop without over doing it. Failure is an option.
A friend, with an art background, suggested to think in terms of complimentary colors and consider using purples to balance the yellow. Not sure how I feel about that maybe I will do some test work.
jps
Wisconsin, United States
Joined: February 06, 2006
KitMaker: 147 posts
Armorama: 140 posts
Joined: February 06, 2006
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Posted: Sunday, October 02, 2016 - 09:13 PM UTC
Thanks Kevin.
I really don't think I want the extremes that B+W can produce but that said a heavier coat of yellow should take care of extremes.
Is that the new Dragon kit? looks nice how did it build?
I really don't think I want the extremes that B+W can produce but that said a heavier coat of yellow should take care of extremes.
Is that the new Dragon kit? looks nice how did it build?
Armorsmith
Pennsylvania, United States
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Posted: Sunday, October 02, 2016 - 09:21 PM UTC
Not tried this yet with desert sand but when doing German WWII dunklegelb I would frequently use anywhere from a dark brown to a tan as a preshade. It gives a much more stuble effect that is effective nonetheless.
Posted: Sunday, October 02, 2016 - 09:26 PM UTC
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Thanks Kevin.
I really don't think I want the extremes that B+W can produce but that said a heavier coat of yellow should take care of extremes.
Is that the new Dragon kit? looks nice how did it build?
Yes it is the new Dragon kit, decent fit, but wish they would add a little bit of an interior, breech not detailed, and due to cuts in Pz.III upper deck, not really realistic to built interior.
I rarely use white, most times I use grey/black or grey/dark green, depending on color I am looking to acheive.