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Bundeswehr to get LEGUAN AVLB!
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Posted: Friday, October 28, 2016 - 08:51 PM UTC
Just found this article that states that the Bundeswehr will field LEGUAN AVLB in the next years.

http://www.baainbw.de/portal/a/baain/!ut/p/c4/LYrBCsJADAX_KNm6iNRbSxHs0YvWW9ouJZhmy5LqxY93F3wDc5mHT8wovXkh46gk-MBh4vP4gZGIFehlexABEglKeC__OcAUNVixBTXOXhJZTLDFZFLKnlIuwDMOrupad_Duv-rbXI6993V96q7tDbd1bX4EGcYQ/

Will probably be called Gepanzertes Brückenlegesystem mit Gefechtsfeldbücke.
Who volunteers for making it in /35 scale? Y-Modelle maybe?
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Posted: Friday, October 28, 2016 - 09:10 PM UTC
Y-Modelle is best prepared for a Leguean since they have the model in 1/87 scale.
http://www.y-modelle.de/leopard-l2-avlb-panzerschnellbruecke-leguan-p-2775.html
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Posted: Friday, October 28, 2016 - 09:34 PM UTC
Commercial video of the LEGUAN system.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lB-KYMjzeA

Great weathering effects!
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Posted: Friday, October 28, 2016 - 10:31 PM UTC
About bl y time I would say.
German military procurement is a joke .

Cheers
Christopher
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Posted: Saturday, October 29, 2016 - 02:15 AM UTC

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Y-Modelle is best prepared for a Leguean since they have the model in 1/87 scale.
http://www.y-modelle.de/leopard-l2-avlb-panzerschnellbruecke-leguan-p-2775.html


Not only the 1/87 model, Y-Modelle used to have a 1/35 conversion set for the Leguan as well:
http://www.modellbauversand.com/Details-Umbau/PzSBr-Leguan-Leopard-2-Panzerschnellbruecke-14m::41236.html

https://www.scalemates.com/kits/224228-y-modelle-y35-132-pzsbr-leguan-leopard-2

Let's hope that Hr Dipl.-Ing. Köditz decides to re-release this conversion
/ Robin
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Posted: Saturday, October 29, 2016 - 03:44 AM UTC

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About bl y time I would say.
German military procurement is a joke .


said the American...

Would make for a great kit... Meng?
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Posted: Saturday, October 29, 2016 - 10:47 AM UTC

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Y-Modelle is best prepared for a Leguean since they have the model in 1/87 scale.
http://www.y-modelle.de/leopard-l2-avlb-panzerschnellbruecke-leguan-p-2775.html


Not only the 1/87 model, Y-Modelle used to have a 1/35 conversion set for the Leguan as well:
http://www.modellbauversand.com/Details-Umbau/PzSBr-Leguan-Leopard-2-Panzerschnellbruecke-14m::41236.html

https://www.scalemates.com/kits/224228-y-modelle-y35-132-pzsbr-leguan-leopard-2

Let's hope that Hr Dipl.-Ing. Köditz decides to re-release this conversion
/ Robin


196 Euros! Phuw! I think I better wait a few years ´til the real one gets fielded. and hope that some good military photographer forwards it`s pics to the Far East modelling companies.
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Posted: Saturday, October 29, 2016 - 02:11 PM UTC

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About bl y time I would say.
German military procurement is a joke .


said the American...

Would make for a great kit... Meng?


At least we don't go of to war relying on others to MEDEVAC our wounded off the battlefield for over a decade .... and the Germans could also use our M104s once they are in Germany next year.

Being a little closer to what's happening here in Germany, and Hermann would probably even agree, that our (US) procurement system ain't perfect but the German system can't provide even the basics in time .... stuff you can take right of the shelf has to be "reinvented".
German Military Procurement Bureaucracy is beyond "Good and Evil" (F. Nietzsche)

I do concur that a MENG kit of this vehicle would be great !

Cheers
Christopher:-H
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Posted: Saturday, October 29, 2016 - 02:17 PM UTC
Christopher you are perfectly right!
German armor is sometimes overengineered to keep the engineer in its well-paid job. I had the opportunity to visit Wegmann plant in 1998. The tempo and efficency of the work was very "disturbing".
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Posted: Sunday, October 30, 2016 - 12:19 AM UTC

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At least we don't go of to war relying on others to MEDEVAC our wounded off the battlefield for over a decade .... and the Germans could also use our M104s once they are in Germany next year.

Being a little closer to what's happening here in Germany, and Hermann would probably even agree, that our (US) procurement system ain't perfect but the German system can't provide even the basics in time .... stuff you can take right of the shelf has to be "reinvented".
German Military Procurement Bureaucracy is beyond "Good and Evil" (F. Nietzsche)

I do concur that a MENG kit of this vehicle would be great !

Cheers
Christopher:-H


yep, working for a government department like I do, I know only too well the foibles of procurement when spending public money.

And thank you for picking up our wounded, too; it is appreciated.

Would it be too much to ask for a Pioneerpanzer 3 whilst we're at it?

kylie

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Posted: Sunday, October 30, 2016 - 02:29 AM UTC

yep, working for a government department like I do, I know only too well the foibles of procurement when spending public money.

And thank you for picking up our wounded, too; it is appreciated.

Would it be too much to ask for a Pioneerpanzer 3 whilst we're at it?

kylie

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Heard rumors hat we plan to procure Kodiak AEV "somedays". KMW recently bought Battletank Dismantling GmbH at Rockensußra, the German tank and FV "graveyard" so that we have plenty of resources to rebuild.
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Posted: Sunday, October 30, 2016 - 04:07 AM UTC
A couple of years ago I might have fell off my chair at a 197 € price tag, but that's what, two Dragon kits? . A plastic kit would be great, but I won't hold my breath...
Would this be the same one that Finland uses?

Jim
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