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Posted: Sunday, November 06, 2016 - 12:04 PM UTC
Hi guys,
What are the difference's between the Chinese type 80 spaag compared to the zsu-57-2.
My understanding could be gun differences? If so what? Also I understand that the type 80 was based on the type 69-2 tank.
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Posted: Sunday, November 06, 2016 - 12:15 PM UTC
chinese version uses T-59 chassic,itself copy of Soviet T-54.
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Posted: Sunday, November 06, 2016 - 12:58 PM UTC
Hi Richard,
Thanks for that
Cheers Mike
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Posted: Sunday, November 06, 2016 - 02:40 PM UTC
AFAIK, the Type 80 SPAAG is rather based on the Type 69-II chassis (you can notice the distinctive bulge on the rear engine plate in the picture below)...



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Posted: Sunday, November 06, 2016 - 02:51 PM UTC
Hello Henri,
How are things in France my friend , I was of the same opinion as yourself re them being built on the type 69.
Just not sure if they just put the turret from the ZSU-57-2, or if there were other changes, I thought they may have changed to guns slightly??
Mike
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Posted: Sunday, November 06, 2016 - 03:12 PM UTC
Everything's fine, thanks ! The Type 80 is fitted with a Chinese-built twin Type 59 AA gun :

http://www.army-guide.com/eng/product4189.html

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Posted: Sunday, November 06, 2016 - 11:30 PM UTC
Here are some walkaround pics of the towed variant of the Type 59 AA gun :

http://www.toadmanstankpictures.com/type59_57mm.htm

http://www.toadmanstankpictures.com/57mm_type59.htm

Here's a better view of the Type 80 rear :



Full size

Another view :



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Posted: Monday, November 07, 2016 - 02:10 AM UTC
Frenchy,
Thank you my friend a couple more pictures!! Do you think the little Chinese lettering is written on tape??
Cheers Mike
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Posted: Monday, November 07, 2016 - 04:02 AM UTC
I guess you could be right about the Chinese "sticker"

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Posted: Monday, November 07, 2016 - 05:57 AM UTC
Hmmm I think my Cantonese is rusty as I am not sure it it says Chinese fair trade department??

But seriously would love to get a clear close up of it & any action photos
:)
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Posted: Monday, November 07, 2016 - 02:26 PM UTC

Quoted Text

But seriously would love to get a clear close up of it & any action photos



Apparently, Iraq deployed some Type 80's during the Iraq-Iran war and the first Gulf War as well...

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Posted: Monday, November 07, 2016 - 03:13 PM UTC
I will keep trying to find some more Frenchy to go along with the ones you have very kindly already posted.
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Posted: Monday, November 07, 2016 - 04:15 PM UTC
Here's a nice front view :



Full size

and one interesting camo scheme :





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Posted: Monday, November 07, 2016 - 11:05 PM UTC
Frenchy,
Thank you my friend & yes the last one does have a very interesting camo scheme
Mike
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Posted: Tuesday, November 08, 2016 - 03:02 AM UTC
Regarding the camo scheme in the last picture, maybe it was not used operationally...Here a Type 85 with the same camo which was on display in the very same place :



According to the Google-translated caption, this was an exhibition of phased-out AFV's...

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Posted: Tuesday, November 08, 2016 - 03:36 AM UTC
Once again many thanks Frenchy, to be honest I preferred the original camo scheme more any way,
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