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Dragon: Brand New Panzer IV Ausf.Dvaranusk
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Santa Cruz de Tenerife, Spain / Espaņa
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Posted: Friday, December 09, 2016 - 02:51 PM UTC
Also announced today by Dragon (and that makes three), a completely new tooled Panzer IV Ausf. D at 1/35.
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Cantstopbuyingkits
European Union
Joined: January 28, 2015
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Posted: Friday, December 09, 2016 - 07:22 PM UTC
A completely new Panzer IV except the tools and DS [ ] tracks, should be interesting.
panzerbob01
Louisiana, United States
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Posted: Friday, December 09, 2016 - 10:26 PM UTC
New tool.... Hmmmmm. Why on earth would the D need to re-tool the IV-D hull or turret stuff? It has great IV-D kits already in the line-up. And, what's with the hinted-at parts-reduction "so that model-makers are spared the repetitive assembly"? I didn't know that most folks who buy Dragon IV kits were beefing about the fact that there are 8 wheel bogies needing possible assembly (probably the most-repetitive part on these kits?). I'll suppose that the D has simplified those bogies to be a 1-piece bogie with 2 pegs for the wheels.... It could, I'm sure, come out looking OK when built. So I'm sure that some who are put off by those Dragon IV-x kits with north-of-900 parts per pop will look at this one. I'm not (yet!) put off by those kits nor by the many-part bogies D has long provided, but I certainly AM put off by the DS tracks. This one won't be on my list (but then, I already have a few of D's previous IV-D kits, so I have thousands of parts yet to go through before I need to add another box to my stack :-) ), but those looking for a simpler IV-D build may be in luck with this.
Vemmadave
Alberta, Canada
Joined: April 17, 2013
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Posted: Saturday, December 10, 2016 - 02:55 AM UTC
they need to do the jumbo sherman and the Lee tank which I have been waiting for!?
digger303
Australia
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Posted: Saturday, December 10, 2016 - 04:14 AM UTC
Vemmadave
Yes they do !!!
Yes they do !!!
Bravo1102
New Jersey, United States
Joined: December 08, 2003
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Posted: Saturday, December 10, 2016 - 07:13 AM UTC
This might be another example of "this kit is not intended for you."
Sure they'll try to sell it to you but the simple construction was made for another market and now they will sell it to you as "new and improved " when it's really not.
Their previous Panzer IV D is a very daunting kit. It was sold under the Platz label as the tie-in for Girls und Panzer. Imagine a teen trying to put it together as maybe their second model ever.
So a simplified kit would be welcome for that market. And just for the heck of it market to those regular Dragon customers.
Wonder if they fixed the under sized muffler? And don't forget that the superior Tristar kit is back out. So Dragon may have seen a need to tweak their kit to better compete. (See the PMMS comparison reviews from back in the day...)
Sure they'll try to sell it to you but the simple construction was made for another market and now they will sell it to you as "new and improved " when it's really not.
Their previous Panzer IV D is a very daunting kit. It was sold under the Platz label as the tie-in for Girls und Panzer. Imagine a teen trying to put it together as maybe their second model ever.
So a simplified kit would be welcome for that market. And just for the heck of it market to those regular Dragon customers.
Wonder if they fixed the under sized muffler? And don't forget that the superior Tristar kit is back out. So Dragon may have seen a need to tweak their kit to better compete. (See the PMMS comparison reviews from back in the day...)