I find myself needing to go get some WWII US Army Olive Drab (not the Air Corps version). I have heard so many things about the Tamiya color changing often and I'm not sure what I'll get it a get a new bottle.
I have never tried Model Master 4728 acrylic OD. Would you recommend I "give it a go" or is there something even better.
Sorry to drag out another dead horse to beat.
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seabee1526

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Posted: Saturday, December 31, 2016 - 01:48 AM UTC

27-1025

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Posted: Saturday, December 31, 2016 - 04:10 AM UTC
Tamiya 62 is still my go to color for US vehicles but that said I just tried Italeri OD for the first time today. Thinned 50/50 with water. A bit to light and faded for my taste but think it looks much better than MM Acryl OD. A coat of Future later on may darken this someone what. Not worth stripping so I'll go with this for a change of pace.





seabee1526

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Posted: Saturday, December 31, 2016 - 04:39 AM UTC
I like that, I've never tried Italeri paint.

Biggles2

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Posted: Saturday, December 31, 2016 - 04:56 AM UTC
DIY: yellow (ocher) and black. Doesn't sound like that mix makes a greenish color, but it does.


RobinNilsson


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Posted: Saturday, December 31, 2016 - 05:19 AM UTC
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DIY: yellow (ocher) and black. Doesn't sound like that mix makes a greenish color, but it does.![]()
Well, it usually does. It depends on what the black is made of.
It can be either a very very dark blue (makes green) or a very very dark brown (less common, doesn't make OD)
/ Robin

berwickj

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Posted: Saturday, December 31, 2016 - 05:23 AM UTC
Vallejo Model Colour OD, very nice brownish OD. Remember to thin it if you want to use an airbrush. Not the Model Air OD, it's too green.
John
John

RobinNilsson


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Posted: Saturday, December 31, 2016 - 05:45 AM UTC
For your entertainment:
Article by Steve Zaloga on wartime OD and how to represent it on a model:
http://www.militarymodelling.com/news/article/olive-drab/4536/
It's a lot of text about the history and bureaucracy so you may skip to the last section about model paints.
/ Robin
Article by Steve Zaloga on wartime OD and how to represent it on a model:
http://www.militarymodelling.com/news/article/olive-drab/4536/
It's a lot of text about the history and bureaucracy so you may skip to the last section about model paints.
/ Robin

seabee1526

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Posted: Saturday, December 31, 2016 - 07:54 PM UTC
Thanks everyone, I was looking for an approximation of a good jump off point...I am nervous going with Tamiya's OD because of the, from what i've read, inconsistency

Biggles2

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Posted: Saturday, December 31, 2016 - 09:17 PM UTC
I use Tamiya exclusively for airbrushing and have not noticed any noticeable variations. Of course, I always lighten or pre- fade the OD as, out of the bottle, it's way too dark for 1/35 scale.
I've mixed Tamiya Matt Black with Tamiya German Dark Yellow and played around with the mix, and arrived at an OD shade.

I've mixed Tamiya Matt Black with Tamiya German Dark Yellow and played around with the mix, and arrived at an OD shade.


retiredyank

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Posted: Sunday, January 01, 2017 - 03:58 AM UTC
How accurate is the AK Olive Drab modulation set? I currently use several brands for modulating od(usually Vallejo Model Color od for the top coat).

Biggles2

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Posted: Sunday, January 01, 2017 - 06:04 AM UTC
I hope this thread doesn't turn into another can-of-worms about "The One And Only Correct Shade Of OD".


Vicious

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Posted: Sunday, January 01, 2017 - 06:12 AM UTC
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I hope this thread doesn't turn into another can-of-worms about "The One And Only Correct Shade Of OD".![]()
Hihihihihihihi....when i see open another OD tread i have the same thought....


Pave-Hawk

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Posted: Sunday, January 01, 2017 - 06:43 AM UTC
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Quoted TextI hope this thread doesn't turn into another can-of-worms about "The One And Only Correct Shade Of OD".![]()
Hihihihihihihi....when i see open another OD tread i have the same thought.......same same as the The One And Only Correct Shade Of 4BO or German Panzer Graü,etc...
Would now be the timne to raise the question of "Did the germans really use red-primer as a camouflage colour?"



bots1141

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Posted: Sunday, January 01, 2017 - 07:15 AM UTC
Quoted Text
Quoted TextQuoted TextI hope this thread doesn't turn into another can-of-worms about "The One And Only Correct Shade Of OD".![]()
Hihihihihihihi....when i see open another OD tread i have the same thought.......same same as the The One And Only Correct Shade Of 4BO or German Panzer Graü,etc...
Would now be the timne to raise the question of "Did the germans really use red-primer as a camouflage colour?"![]()
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Any OD Tigers in Tunisia???


Vicious

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Posted: Sunday, January 01, 2017 - 07:26 AM UTC
Quoted Text
Quoted TextQuoted TextQuoted TextI hope this thread doesn't turn into another can-of-worms about "The One And Only Correct Shade Of OD".![]()
Hihihihihihihi....when i see open another OD tread i have the same thought.......same same as the The One And Only Correct Shade Of 4BO or German Panzer Graü,etc...
Would now be the timne to raise the question of "Did the germans really use red-primer as a camouflage colour?"![]()
![]()
Any OD Tigers in Tunisia???![]()
...


P.S: sorry for the off topic but that's to funny....

PzDave

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Posted: Sunday, January 01, 2017 - 08:34 AM UTC
Also look to films of the US Army vehicles during the Second World War. Amount of fading,mud,dirt etc.

Biggles2

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Posted: Sunday, January 01, 2017 - 08:47 PM UTC
A good way of establishing OD is to knock off a sizable paint chip from a vehicle ( I did this on an old 90mm AA gun being used as a gate guard at a local Legion Hall). The outside facing surface of the chip will be dirty and faded, etc, but the reversed surface will still look like the freshly painted color. Won't matter how many times the vehicle has been repainted - it's the inside surface of the first coat of paint that will be visible.

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