The famous German gulashkanonen field kitchen depicted by tamiya and Riich have wooden spiked wheels for horse drawing. Wooden wheels probably can't survive being towed at speed behind trucks. Did the panzers in early blitzkrieg days have a separate motorized field kitchen? Or did the soldiers eat iron ration until horse drawn kitchen catch up?

I believe the horse drawn version is only for the infantry units, not armor units.
No idea on what mech units used.
Dan

IBG do a version of the Einheitsdiesel truck with a G-Kanone in the back. No idea if this is historically accurate. I caught an episode of one of the WW2 history programmes on TV this morning (WW2 Complete History?). There was clear clip of a PzII towing a G-Kanone on pneumatic wheels. Allegedly Poland, but one can never be sure the clips in these programmes are accurate. Many are clearly not.

(Photo: German federal archive via Wikimedia Commons; License: https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/deed.en_GB)

From: http://www.kfzderwehrmacht.de/Homepage_english/Trailers/Heeresfahrzeuge/Hf__11-13_grosse_Feldkuche/hf__11-13_grosse_feldkuche.html

Another option :



I guess the truck is a Krupp L3H163.

Here you can find pics of the Einheitsdiesel-mounted version :

http://www.german.o5m6.de/field_kitchen.html

H.P.

This photo might also show a temporary logistic solution only to save train capacity?!
The wheels are still attached while the 'truck loaded' version do lack them.

You may be right...Who knows ?

But this one is not on a train :



and neither are these :









Looks like another Krupp truck :



H.P.

Frenchy,

Thanks for posting those pictures. I was about to look for the first one. I think those were all in Russia? There should be one in Africa in an Opel Blitz also?

Based on photographic evidence, they were commonly carried in the back of Einheitsdiesels in mechanised units. After all, a kitchen needs more than a cooker to be effective and the additional space allows storage of supplies, fuel, utensils etc..

Randall

According to the caption, the first picture in my last post has been taken in Russia in 1942, and the truck belonged to the Panzer-Artillerie-Regiment 16 (mot.).

The third and fourth ones have been taken in France.

Here are two more :











H.P.

Thanks again. I have seen a couple of the pictures, but always a tiny picture in a book.

If you take off the wheels you must have something else to get a reasonable work place height for the cooks. In some of the other images posted by H.P. there is some kind of support structure to lift up the kitchen when the wheels have been removed.
The chimney can be folded down which means that the canvas on that Krupp 6-wheel truck doesn't need to be rolled back like it is in that photo. Don't know if the chimney would be too high for rail road clearances but I doubt it but folding it to be able to close the canvas would be a very good idea if it is simply a matter of saving space on the train.
It also looks as if the four soldiers on the flat car and truck are working with the kitchen.

/ Robin

Edit: See also Seans comment below about the advantage of keeping the wheels for loading/unloading using ramps. Good thinking there

Hello there

One might also consider the choice of lifting that thing onto the bed of the truck or pushing it....

Cheers


Sean

Grab a beverage and enjoy.
http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?f=132&t=152538&sid=a2cd13a32756a6596303358819382fa7

The quandary here is the huge variety of vehicles that could be found in every German unit through the entire war ! Even in the same Regiment!
So the only limit you would have is the time period,IE,you couldn't use a late model Blitz during the Polish operation for instance. But other than that you could pop the gulash on the back of almost everything !
Have fun !
J