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Bergepanther winch color
Chuck4
United States
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Posted: Wednesday, February 08, 2017 - 06:19 PM UTC
Can anyone point me to any references showing the color of the winch assembly in a bergepanther. I've seen suggestions for primer red, panzer gray, and some models have it painted dark yellow.
Frenchy
Rhone, France
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Posted: Wednesday, February 08, 2017 - 06:51 PM UTC
Posted: Wednesday, February 08, 2017 - 10:26 PM UTC
Well, can't really beat actual photos, but I'm quite sure, that the Germans generally painted their equipment in the standard colors.
Jacob
Jacob
Bleusaille
France
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Posted: Thursday, February 09, 2017 - 12:48 AM UTC
the one of the Saumur Museum (France)has the same color...
you can find other details pictures here :
http://www.maquetland.com/phototheque/35-maquetgeniedepannage
Pascal
you can find other details pictures here :
http://www.maquetland.com/phototheque/35-maquetgeniedepannage
Pascal
varanusk
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Posted: Thursday, February 09, 2017 - 04:20 AM UTC
Panzer tracts has two clear photos of the winch. I have no doubt one is Dunkelgelb, as it is the same colour of the superstructure around it. I would say it was taken by the British after the capture, but I do not think they repainted it.
However the other one is definitively darker, which given the date of production should be red primer. It is at the factory so maybe it was painted later on -or not.
In general I tend to avoid museum photos for colour reference (and even for details unless confirmed by wartime photos) as they are not very reliable.
However the other one is definitively darker, which given the date of production should be red primer. It is at the factory so maybe it was painted later on -or not.
In general I tend to avoid museum photos for colour reference (and even for details unless confirmed by wartime photos) as they are not very reliable.