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ubermensche
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Posted: Monday, February 27, 2017 - 01:21 AM UTC
Hey guys, I'm working on a diorama of a StuG in Russia and well. I need a tiny bit of help for something. I got the Black Dog 1:35 resin Russian House (D35076) and the thing is well...disproportionately huge. Like look:


I mean look at the size of the door compared to the size of the figure. His head only reaches the knob part of the door.

So I wonder...is it just me or what? Any help? I kinda don't want to throw this piece
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Posted: Monday, February 27, 2017 - 01:34 AM UTC
Blow the door in?
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Posted: Monday, February 27, 2017 - 01:42 AM UTC
I would have to agree with you, it does look a little off. I know some building have oversized doors, but when you look at the door handle on that building, it is head high.

The angle of your picture makes it look worse then it is. If the door handle plate would be located lower, it is not all that bad. I did measure it, and it comes out to be an 8ft door.

jrutman
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Posted: Monday, February 27, 2017 - 02:22 AM UTC
Looks more like 1/24 scale.
ubermensche
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Posted: Monday, February 27, 2017 - 02:23 AM UTC
Ya you're right Kevin, it's less bad than I first thought. I guess it's because I'm using Dragon figures, which I just realized are a bit smaller than other figures. Here is the same dude next to 2 Tamiya figures I have in my stash.





Oh well, I guess I'll just have to make do with it.
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Posted: Monday, February 27, 2017 - 02:33 AM UTC
It might be possible to carefully shave off the molded on doorknob area and scratch a new one, or find a bit of PE to replace it.
ubermensche
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Posted: Monday, February 27, 2017 - 03:15 AM UTC

Quoted Text

It might be possible to carefully shave off the molded on doorknob area and scratch a new one, or find a bit of PE to replace it.



That sounds like an excellent idea! I'll do that. And probably replace it with a small styrene strip.
obg153
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Posted: Monday, February 27, 2017 - 05:25 PM UTC
Can't recall which AM company made it, (perhaps Plus Model or Soga Miniatures) but a while back there was a set of assorted doorplates/knobs/hinges which I think were a combo of PE and resin. The set could cover various sized doors as well as iron & wooden gates.
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Posted: Monday, February 27, 2017 - 10:12 PM UTC
It might take some extra work but if I faced that situation I might consider cutting out the door completely then scratch build a new door to correct/desired size and scratch build the surrounding door frame and wall details as well. I know this step requires a bit more effort but it's your call on how much you want to put in it to achieve the best final result. Anyways, good luck with this project I'm sure no matter what you decide to do it will look great at the end.

JGphins
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Posted: Monday, February 27, 2017 - 10:24 PM UTC
I would say that the door is placed upside down

If so then you might just cut the door en rotate it 180°
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Posted: Monday, February 27, 2017 - 10:44 PM UTC
Steven-
I think you're onto something there!
pbennett
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Posted: Monday, February 27, 2017 - 11:11 PM UTC
I don't think the door is upside down. If you look, you will notice that the bottom panels are taller than the rest ... a standard feature of any panelled door. Also, the handle is above the centre line of the door ... again correct. Personally, I think the whole thing is over-scale.
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Posted: Wednesday, March 01, 2017 - 06:08 AM UTC
Just chop a piece out of the center of the lower panel like you chop the top of a car... that should fix the problem!
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Posted: Wednesday, March 01, 2017 - 06:30 AM UTC

Quoted Text

I don't think the door is upside down. If you look, you will notice that the bottom panels are taller than the rest ... a standard feature of any panelled door. Also, the handle is above the centre line of the door ... again correct.



That doesn't describe a single door in my house.

That door does seem a touch taller than it should be, but I know there are some tall doors out there. It would bother me, though.
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Posted: Wednesday, March 01, 2017 - 06:48 AM UTC
WW2 era, I don't know about Russia, but I don't believe older European houses would typically have such tall doors.
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Posted: Wednesday, March 01, 2017 - 09:08 AM UTC
In my country old houses around 1900's have this kind of huge doors.
Some examples
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All the plans and materials come from European countries
pbennett
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Posted: Friday, March 03, 2017 - 07:16 AM UTC
My comments on the standard configuration of a panelled door probably relate to those found here in the UK ... maybe they differ in other countries.
brekinapez
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Posted: Friday, March 03, 2017 - 08:49 AM UTC
Perhaps we Americans have smaller doors in order to make ourselves feel even larger than we already are?
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Posted: Friday, March 03, 2017 - 09:04 AM UTC
Looks like it's 1/24th scale!!!

Save it for a dio with a model of your favorite sports car

Or double check with the seller about the scale of the item, and see if you can do a return/exchange
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Posted: Friday, March 03, 2017 - 10:18 AM UTC
My 2 cents - worth every penny you paid for it . . . .

Shave off the doorplate and knob. Make a new one lower down using some sheet plastic and a round ball seamstress' pin. Then scratch build a small stoop (roof) just over the door that would sort of hide the top 1/5th of the door.

Problem solved and you would be adding additional 3D quality to the otherwise flat front structure.

OR

The door opens in so hiding the top portion of the door would not stop it from physically working.
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Posted: Friday, March 03, 2017 - 01:48 PM UTC
Hi

I wouldn't be surprised if when making the masters for this they used a Miniart door. These vacuum formed kits are sold as 1/32 to 1/35 and certainly in certain circumstances the doors etc look too big and out of scale for 1/35.

Here is the door they usually include. Note the panel layout




Looks the same plate for the handle etc from what I can make out......cheeky.

Alan
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