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Dragon: Recovery and Demolition VehiclesPosted: Tuesday, March 07, 2017 - 08:00 AM UTC
Dragon has announced a new kit that combines its previously released Bergepanzer Tiger I with a Borgward IV.
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Panzerdan412
New York, United States
Joined: April 10, 2012
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Posted: Tuesday, March 07, 2017 - 09:58 AM UTC
I wonder when the Borgward Iv with the panzershreks will be released
varanusk
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Santa Cruz de Tenerife, Spain / Espaņa
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Posted: Tuesday, March 07, 2017 - 02:38 PM UTC
Curious that they have retained the "Bergetiger" label while this kit aims more at the other alleged role, as charge layer...
Posted: Tuesday, March 07, 2017 - 05:23 PM UTC
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Curious that they have retained the "Bergetiger" label while this kit aims more at the other alleged role, as charge layer...
This is from Wikipedia, not sure how correct it is, but may be the answer.
Thus the allies dubbed the vehicle they had found the "Bergetiger". No official German name for this vehicle has ever been located.
Byrden
Wien, Austria
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Posted: Tuesday, March 07, 2017 - 08:31 PM UTC
The German documentation states that the tank was used for charge laying; however, some of its fittings indicate that it could also recover heavy vehicles.
David
David
tanknick22
United States
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Posted: Wednesday, March 08, 2017 - 11:28 PM UTC
Oh no not another tiger
Posted: Thursday, March 09, 2017 - 04:08 AM UTC
That flimsy hook & gantry rig could barely lift a Kubelwagen, much less an ATV...
marcb
Overijssel, Netherlands
Joined: March 25, 2006
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Posted: Thursday, March 09, 2017 - 05:20 AM UTC
The vehicle was supposed to drive up to the intended target and then the charge was lowered using the crane outside the vehicle while under fire...
Posted: Thursday, March 09, 2017 - 06:14 AM UTC
That it could do, but I don't see any recovery ability...
Jmarles
British Columbia, Canada
Joined: November 02, 2008
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Posted: Thursday, March 09, 2017 - 07:09 AM UTC
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That it could do, but I don't see any recovery ability...
As David has stated there is a folded set of tow bars/spreader bars on the front. So this converted Tiger would certainly be able to tow/recover any number of vehicles. I don't know why people always get hung up on the crane - recovery vehicles almost always tow the "victim" vehicle.
Taeuss
Manitoba, Canada
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Posted: Saturday, March 11, 2017 - 09:34 PM UTC
Considering how strained the drive train was on Tigers I wonder how successful this vehicle would have been before it too needed a tow. Now how about a new Bergepanther kit instead?