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Tamiya: April Armor ReleasesPosted: Monday, March 13, 2017 - 09:13 AM UTC
Three previously announced kits are now slated for next month's release.
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48thscale
Limburg, Netherlands
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Posted: Monday, March 13, 2017 - 07:13 PM UTC
mhhh...that Valentine looks good:-)
tigerproductions
Tennessee, United States
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Posted: Monday, March 13, 2017 - 07:25 PM UTC
It's the Italeri crap kit reboxed by Tamiya. Don't bother
C_JACQUEMONT
Loire-Atlantique, France
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Posted: Monday, March 13, 2017 - 07:30 PM UTC
Jose,
Only the Crusader is an Italeri rebox, but :
1/ It wasn't a crap kit, actually it's pretty good.
2/ Tamiya offers corrected parts which make the kit even better.
Cheers,
Christophe
Only the Crusader is an Italeri rebox, but :
1/ It wasn't a crap kit, actually it's pretty good.
2/ Tamiya offers corrected parts which make the kit even better.
Cheers,
Christophe
Posted: Monday, March 13, 2017 - 07:41 PM UTC
Quoted Text
It's the Italeri crap kit reboxed by Tamiya. Don't bother
Pretty ironic coming from another vendor, wonder how he would feel is some posted that kind of comment about one of his products?
Bravo1102
New Jersey, United States
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Posted: Monday, March 13, 2017 - 08:20 PM UTC
The Crusader kit is really a nice kit. I just finished one and bought two more to do all three marks. It's a new favorite kit.
I'd like to see if Tamiya added the exhausts too. Be nice if they reissued the Mark II which is very hard to track down these days.
And their Valentine will probably be cheaper than the AFV-Club one. Wonder if we'll see a great sell off of Miniart kits now?
I'd like to see if Tamiya added the exhausts too. Be nice if they reissued the Mark II which is very hard to track down these days.
And their Valentine will probably be cheaper than the AFV-Club one. Wonder if we'll see a great sell off of Miniart kits now?
bill_c
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Posted: Monday, March 13, 2017 - 10:54 PM UTC
Aren't the MiniArt Valentines already the better choice?
Cantstopbuyingkits
European Union
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Posted: Monday, March 13, 2017 - 11:33 PM UTC
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Aren't the MiniArt Valentines already the better choice?
All the Miniart Valentines have some serious accuracy issues. Not much better than the Dragon kit compared to the more recent options.
ALBOWIE
New South Wales, Australia
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Posted: Tuesday, March 14, 2017 - 12:59 AM UTC
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It's the Italeri crap kit reboxed by Tamiya. Don't bother
Precisely which Italeri Valentine are you referring to? Funny as they have only done one in 72nd which is an ex ESCI kit. If you are referring to the Crusader it is far from "Crap" as you so quaintly expressed it. It was a very competent kit with a few niggles many of which appear to have been addressed by Tamiya in this release (Fenders). It won't be the exacting detail of a new DML PZ III but it will still be a very competent kit and still the only game in town. I'd love a new tamiya (or Bronco, AFV etc) releases of this but am happy with a tamiya makeover for now
Al
bill_c
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Posted: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 - 02:27 AM UTC
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All the Miniart Valentines have some serious accuracy issues.
Please elaborate. I have been looking at adding one to my stash.
Cantstopbuyingkits
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Posted: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 - 04:56 AM UTC
Quoted Text
Quoted TextAll the Miniart Valentines have some serious accuracy issues.
Please elaborate. I have been looking at adding one to my stash.
Here is a very good comparison of the AFVC/Miniart kits and what the latter got wrong with the Valentine.
Bravo1102
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Posted: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 - 06:23 PM UTC
Quoted Text
Quoted TextQuoted TextAll the Miniart Valentines have some serious accuracy issues.
Please elaborate. I have been looking at adding one to my stash.
Here is a very good comparison of the AFVC/Miniart kits and what the latter got wrong with the Valentine.
I have a shelf full of Miniart kits. The rear hull has the wrong angles. There are a few variant details they missed when doing the five-six different marks they did. The AFV-club has the correct rear angles. Other than that it was a toss up for me and it ended up being a matter of price and I ended up getting the Miniart kits for half price or less.
vikingtanker
Alabama, United States
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Posted: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 - 06:33 PM UTC
Christophe,
Thanks! It isn't a bad kit and the corrected fenders make it the best (only?) game in town.
Thanks! It isn't a bad kit and the corrected fenders make it the best (only?) game in town.
bill_c
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Posted: Thursday, March 16, 2017 - 08:07 PM UTC
Thanks for posting that. Unfortunately, it looks as though the AFV Club kit is a one-off. Maybe the Tamiya will give modelers more choices. With MiniArt, it seems once an error is introduced to their designs, it spreads across all subsequent variants.
taesung
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Posted: Thursday, March 16, 2017 - 09:45 PM UTC
Very cool AFV kits!!!
Photoguy1
United States
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Posted: Friday, March 17, 2017 - 09:09 AM UTC
The Crusader definitely sounds nice, it's my favorite British AFV.
jrutman
Pennsylvania, United States
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Posted: Friday, March 17, 2017 - 06:32 PM UTC
I can see that nice Crusader in a Market Garden dio.
Yankasippi
Mississippi, United States
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Posted: Tuesday, February 13, 2018 - 03:17 AM UTC
That Cruiser tank is one fine model, it plus a very nice Panzer 4 along with Tamiya's Hanomag (SdKfz 251 C riveted) were what got me started again in modeling. As far as kit quality, the Italeri kits were the best thing going, may I go far as saying that they were the best in the business. I hope they haven't retooled making it less of the former glory days of Italeri, except the soldiers that went with it were terrible. The cool thing about both the above mentioned Italeri kits (Pz4 included) was that they had working suspensions. A few years later I bought a Tamiya Pz4 and it was junk by comparison as it was meant to be a motorized toy. It did, however, have a gun breech that included the cartridge basket. That made it a must for open side doors back then.
Yankasippi
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Posted: Tuesday, February 13, 2018 - 03:21 AM UTC
The Cromwell was not in that battle, it was great for the desert but it was so under armored that it would have been a suicide vehicle. I can't remember if the Valentine was in NW Europe or not. I've seen a flood-flipped suspension, that is road wheels and tracks sticking out of the water, but it may have been one of the antitank guns that used the same suspension as the Valentine. That would be the one that the gun faced the rear.
Don't mess up a dio of an actual battle with a tank that would not have been there, unless you want to!
Don't mess up a dio of an actual battle with a tank that would not have been there, unless you want to!