Meng King Tiger with interior build log
Victoria, Australia
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Posted: Monday, April 24, 2017 - 03:27 AM UTC
Hi all,
Because I don't have enough going on at present with my 1/16 scale Jagdtiger build, I thought id start Meng's excellent King Tiger, and throw in their interior and working tracks set. Made a little progress today, just the first couple of steps in the instructions.
The join between the hull interior sides and sponson floors has been filled with Tamiya grey putty, it looks a little messy but will clean up nicely.
Its been pointed out on other forums and on Facebook that theres a fit issue with the armour that surrounds the final drives on the Meng kit - i thought i'd post these two images as proof that there is no issue (at least on my kit). Ive built a number of these kits and I've experienced no issue thus far, perhaps its operator error.
Sam
Queensland, Australia
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Posted: Monday, April 24, 2017 - 08:43 AM UTC
Nice work Sam,
Thanks for the images,please keep them coming.
Michael
Victoria, Australia
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Posted: Monday, April 24, 2017 - 04:26 PM UTC
Vermont, United States
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Posted: Monday, April 24, 2017 - 05:07 PM UTC
That is a very fine and clean looking build, Sam. I am looking forward to following along. I walked by a BUNCH of these kits at AMPS and was content to leave them be, now you have me rethinking.. ya bastid!
-grin-
Mike
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Malaysia
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Posted: Monday, April 24, 2017 - 05:15 PM UTC
Man now I really want to get this kit. This hobby is a money sucking addiction I tell you!
Arkansas, United States
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Posted: Monday, April 24, 2017 - 05:29 PM UTC
I'm torn, between Trump's 16 scale KT and this one. I will be watching intently.
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Wien, Austria
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Posted: Monday, April 24, 2017 - 06:01 PM UTC
Is that the small MG accessories box on the right wall? It looks a little strange. Have you photos of a real one?
What are the dimensions of the MG34 ammunition bag lids? Lots of manufacturers make them oversize.
David
Queensland, Australia
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Posted: Tuesday, April 25, 2017 - 04:14 AM UTC
G'day Sam
Looking good. I'm currently at about the same stage of building the Takom KT with interior, and found the best reference by far is the series of articles on the Superking published on AFV Modeller. The articles can be downloaded as pdfs for one pound each.
Having said that, it would appear so far that both Takom and Meng have read the same articles, as the accuracy and ease of fit to date is stunning.
One small point (illustrated in the articles mentioned above) is that the floor hatch has been provided with the locking arms retracted, which would mean the hatch would simply fall out of the hole in the floor. It would appear that Takom and Meng have made the same mistake - I spent some time yesterday correcting mine.
I would be interested to know what colour or mix you used for the primer red.
Keep posting please.
Thanks
Regards
Rob
Queensland, Australia
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Posted: Tuesday, April 25, 2017 - 04:16 AM UTC
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Is that the small MG accessories box on the right wall? It looks a little strange. Have you photos of a real one?
What are the dimensions of the MG34 ammunition bag lids? Lots of manufacturers make them oversize.
David
G'day David
I have seen exactly that information recently - now I will have to rack my brain and try to remember where.
Regards
Rob
Queensland, Australia
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Posted: Tuesday, April 25, 2017 - 04:25 AM UTC
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Is that the small MG accessories box on the right wall? It looks a little strange. Have you photos of a real one?
What are the dimensions of the MG34 ammunition bag lids? Lots of manufacturers make them oversize.
David
Found it - over on Missing Lynx.
Lid is 105 wide and 110 deep. Bag is about 109 wide. Total height is about 255 of which the bag is 215.
Regards
Rob
G'day David
I have seen exactly that information recently - now I will have to rack my brain and try to remember where.
Regards
Rob
Victoria, Australia
Joined: November 03, 2008
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Posted: Tuesday, April 25, 2017 - 04:56 AM UTC
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G'day Sam
Looking good. I'm currently at about the same stage of building the Takom KT with interior, and found the best reference by far is the series of articles on the Superking published on AFV Modeller. The articles can be downloaded as pdfs for one pound each.
Having said that, it would appear so far that both Takom and Meng have read the same articles, as the accuracy and ease of fit to date is stunning.
One small point (illustrated in the articles mentioned above) is that the floor hatch has been provided with the locking arms retracted, which would mean the hatch would simply fall out of the hole in the floor. It would appear that Takom and Meng have made the same mistake - I spent some time yesterday correcting mine.
I would be interested to know what colour or mix you used for the primer red.
Keep posting please.
Thanks
Regards
Rob
Hi Rob,
Ive just spent 6 months detailing Trumpeters Jagdtiger fully, so im intimately aware of the workings of the Tiger II/Jagdtiger, from a modelling perspective. Ive got Dave's Superking book, which is a terrific reference. Im building this interior out of box, as I did the Takom one earlier, to highlight whats good (or not) about the kits.
As for colour - thats the colour of the plastic so far, I've not applied any paint as yet. I'll be using MMP paints when I do paint it.
Sam
Arkansas, United States
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Posted: Tuesday, April 25, 2017 - 07:00 AM UTC
These kits (I am including all Meng and Takom KT's) really need an interior etch set. *hint hint
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Queensland, Australia
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Posted: Thursday, April 27, 2017 - 02:13 PM UTC
G'day Matt
Having spent most of the afternoon trying to build the bits missing off the radio racks out of Evergreen I can only agree!!
Regards
Rob
Wien, Austria
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Posted: Thursday, April 27, 2017 - 02:46 PM UTC
Sorry, I was asking for the dimensions of Meng's ammunition bags, not the real ones!
David
Washington, United States
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Posted: Thursday, April 27, 2017 - 07:09 PM UTC
If I didn't have a 1/16 KT I'd get this kit but I've come to realize you CAN have too many tigers.
Queensland, Australia
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Posted: Friday, April 28, 2017 - 05:03 AM UTC
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Sorry, I was asking for the dimensions of Meng's ammunition bags, not the real ones!
David
Oh well, at least now you know (although I'd be VERY surprised if you didn't know already), and for the record, I just checked the size of the Takom ones and they're too small.
Short of raiding numerous kits, does anybody know where I can get 24 decent ammunition bags?
Regards
Rob
Victoria, Australia
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Posted: Friday, April 28, 2017 - 11:00 AM UTC
Victoria, Australia
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Posted: Friday, April 28, 2017 - 01:01 PM UTC
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Sorry, I was asking for the dimensions of Meng's ammunition bags, not the real ones!
David
Hi David,
The Meng parts are 3.2mm x 3.2mm across the lid area, and the canvas section hangs 8mm from the top of the lid to the bottom of the bag.
Hope this helps,
Sam
Wien, Austria
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Posted: Friday, April 28, 2017 - 01:08 PM UTC
That looks like a very convincing interior!
The low flat box behind the turret; that's the MG bipod box, isn't it? Have we photos of it there? Is there a decal for it?
David
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Posted: Friday, April 28, 2017 - 02:10 PM UTC
Sam,
Love seeing this going together!
Gaz
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Putrajaya, Malaysia
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Posted: Friday, April 28, 2017 - 03:24 PM UTC
Wow...simply amazing...
Cant wait to see it finish...
Keep us update Sam...
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Queensland, Australia
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Posted: Friday, April 28, 2017 - 04:59 PM UTC
Gday Sam
Looking great! I can't speak for the engine compartment (yet) but Meng's radio and instrument panel looks better than Takom's. I've just spent a considerable amount of time adding missing bits to the Takom radio and frame in particular.
Regards
Rob
Victoria, Australia
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Posted: Friday, April 28, 2017 - 05:09 PM UTC
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Gday Sam
Looking great! I can't speak for the engine compartment (yet) but Meng's radio and instrument panel looks better than Takom's. I've just spent a considerable amount of time adding missing bits to the Takom radio and frame in particular.
Regards
Rob
Yeah I now all about that - heres my radio rack for the Trumpeter 1/16 scale Jagdtiger. Its similar but also different to the one in the King Tiger. Heaven forbid the Germans do anything to make it easier for us!
Obviously its easier to include more in the 1/16 scale build, but theres still stuff to add in 1/35 scale.
Sam
