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T-54-1 Tracks question
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Posted: Monday, April 24, 2017 - 09:26 AM UTC
Zdravstvuyte comrades.

I have the MiniArt T-54-1 kit and would like to add some Friul tracks. Is the ATL-01 the correct set for this kit?

Thanks!
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Posted: Monday, April 24, 2017 - 10:37 AM UTC
Zdravstvuy Comrade!
Originaly T-54-1 used OMSh tracks(ATL-01).
But...the early T-54's had short production runs and underwent serious modifications so later on RMSh track(ATL-11) became standard.
So if you intend to model vehicle from the late 40's- then you need ATL-1.
For a later,upgraded version you'll need ATL-11.
Bear in mind that for ATL-11 you will also need to change the drive wheel.OMSh track wheel had 12 teeth,while RMSh's-13 teeth.
Hope this helps,
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Posted: Monday, April 24, 2017 - 10:58 AM UTC

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Zdravstvuy Comrade!
Originaly T-54-1 used OMSh tracks(ATL-01).
But...the early T-54's had short production runs and underwent serious modifications so later on RMSh track(ATL-11) became standard.
So if you intend to model vehicle from the late 40's- then you need ATL-1.
For a later,upgraded version you'll need ATL-11.
Bear in mind that for ATL-11 you will also need to change the drive wheel.OMSh track wheel had 12 teeth,while RMSh's-13 teeth.
Hope this helps,


Blagodarya Tovarich!

ATL-01 it is!

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Posted: Monday, April 24, 2017 - 12:43 PM UTC
T-54-1 Used different tracks entirely. Look at the Miniart kit's tracks. They're clearly not OMSH tracks.
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Posted: Tuesday, April 25, 2017 - 01:13 PM UTC

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T-54-1 Used different tracks entirely. Look at the Miniart kit's tracks. They're clearly not OMSH tracks.


Yup, AFAIA the wider OMSh style tracks did not come in till the T-54-2. However it is possible that some of the earlier versions were retro-fitted with the later tracks (most museum examples have these) Some good pics of original, narrow style, tracks here:

https://sites.google.com/site/tankisworldoftanks/http-gorod-mody-ru/t-54

the Kubinka example shows the original style tracks:

http://fcdn.valka.cz/attachments/5461/T-54-1.jpg

http://military.tomsk.ru/forum/download/file.php?id=18899&mode=view

http://military.tomsk.ru/forum/download/file.php?id=18900&mode=view

http://military.tomsk.ru/forum/download/file.php?id=18901&mode=view

HTH
Andy
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Posted: Tuesday, April 25, 2017 - 02:32 PM UTC
OMSh is a type of track, not specific track.The abbreviation means Open Metalic Pin.Thus the T-54-1 track was OMSh type.
But...
Remigijus is right- the intitial batch of vehicles(T-54 mod. 1947) had OMSh type tracks, that are different from ATL-1.They were narrower(500 mm) and had a hole in each rimless track to accomodate the bolt when mounting antiskid extensions.Generic MiniArt's kit tracks are exactly these.
On the other hand-with T-54 mod.1949 ,the narrower tracks were replaced by wider ones(580 mm).ATL-1 is matching these wider OMSh type tracks. Backfitting them to existing T-54-1 is quite possible as these new tracks improved drivetrain performance.
So to put it short-if you, Christian, are wiling to use Fruils,the only option is ATL-1, but your vehicle must be T-54-1 in use later than 1949.
If you want to stay within initial batches of T-54-1(1947-1948), then use the generic tracks.
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Posted: Tuesday, April 25, 2017 - 09:40 PM UTC
Very nicely explained Angel. Thanks.
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Posted: Tuesday, April 25, 2017 - 09:51 PM UTC
Spasibo tovarich!

I had the ATL-01s in my cart, then took them out, then the auction ended and I lost my good deal < sadface >.

Now I will look for another set. Thanks again!
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Posted: Wednesday, April 26, 2017 - 07:19 PM UTC
You're welcome mates, but thanks should also go to Remigijus and Andy for their right remarks.
Have fun buiding whatever you build!
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Posted: Thursday, April 27, 2017 - 01:24 AM UTC

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Spasibo tovarich!

I had the ATL-01s in my cart, then took them out, then the auction ended and I lost my good deal < sadface >.

Now I will look for another set. Thanks again!


Or just wait a short time:

http://www.friulmodel.hu/en/atl-176-t-44-m-t-54-model-1947-and-first-prototype-i277/

HTH
Andy
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Posted: Thursday, April 27, 2017 - 01:34 AM UTC

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Spasibo tovarich!

I had the ATL-01s in my cart, then took them out, then the auction ended and I lost my good deal < sadface >.

Now I will look for another set. Thanks again!


Or just wait a short time:

http://www.friulmodel.hu/en/atl-176-t-44-m-t-54-model-1947-and-first-prototype-i277/

HTH
Andy


HEY! $42 shipped. Many thanks!
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1-35-Friulmodel-ATL-176-T-44-M-T-54-model-1947-and-first-prototypes-/352040957255?hash=item51f746b547:g:9NwAAOSwuZJZAbcr
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