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Long Shot Frog-7 (Luna) Question
barra733
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Posted: Friday, May 12, 2017 - 04:30 PM UTC
Trumpeter provide the air-brake tanks on the Frog 7 (Baz/Zil 135 chassis) but no indication of hoses or cabling - any pics of the underside/braking schematics of this vehicle? I've been Googling this for 2 days with very few results!
JimboHUN
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Posted: Saturday, May 13, 2017 - 03:12 AM UTC
Hello Ian,

I have a good few photos here, hope you find what you are after, I have no time to browse through now:

http://mhrfweb.makett.org/MHRFWEB/?page_id=534&wppa-album=175&wppa-cover=0&wppa-occur=1

Cheers, Adam

KurtLaughlin
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Posted: Saturday, May 13, 2017 - 03:56 AM UTC

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Trumpeter provide the air-brake tanks on the Frog 7 (Baz/Zil 135 chassis) but no indication of hoses or cabling - any pics of the underside/braking schematics of this vehicle? I've been Googling this for 2 days with very few results!



Make sure you search using Cyrillic letters.

This is for a Zil-135LM:

https://goo.gl/photos/B8bsfPGrvMUbx6eGA

KL
barra733
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Posted: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 - 03:19 PM UTC
Thanks both - very much appreciated.

Has anyone else building this kit noticed that Trumpeter have forgot to add the 'outside' exhaust pipe on both engines? The manifold is there with the connecting hole, but it's not pointed out in the instructions and there's no corresponding parts in the kit. Not a biggie as it's well hidden inside the engine bay, but strange...
165thspc
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Posted: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 - 06:50 PM UTC
Something I have wondered for a long time: does one engine drive the rear pair of axles and the the other drive the front pair? Or does the twin engine driveline get combined into one at some point?

Was surprised when I saw there were two transmissions. I had expected the twin engine output to be combined at the bell housing and then go into one tranny like the twin engines in the Stuart..
barra733
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Posted: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 - 08:19 PM UTC
No - left engine drives the left wheels, right engine drives the right wheels! There''s a video of one starting up and it lurches from side-to-side as the engines 'balance out'. If you look at pictures of the engines in the bay you'll see that it has one gear selector lever connected by a link bar to both gear boxes. the same for the accelerator (again missed by Trumpeter).
andymacrae
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Posted: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 - 02:02 AM UTC
Zil-135 drive:

https://tinyurl.com/mld92yr

Some useful info on wiring here:

http://model-kom.pl/9p113-dodatki.html

and a walkaround showing some useful views here:

http://hobby-models.ru/walkaround/zil-135.html

HTH
Andy
barra733
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Posted: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 - 02:36 AM UTC
Wow Andy - those wiring diagrams are fantastic. Thank you.
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