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The "green tunisian Tigers" really exists?
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Posted: Thursday, June 08, 2017 - 03:48 PM UTC

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Funnily enough, I won this at my Club (AMMS Brisbane) raffle last weekend:





Nice prize Gary
Your Big Cats V entry perhaps
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Posted: Thursday, June 08, 2017 - 04:37 PM UTC
Congrats
And what a cool prize.
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https://www.google.com/search?q=good+good+let+the+nerd+rage&rlz=1CDGOYI_enUS743US743&oq=good+good+let+the+nerd+rage&aqs=chrome..69i57.17758j0j4&hl=en-US&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8#imgrc=mFw2zjcxE5iLOM:
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Posted: Thursday, June 08, 2017 - 08:27 PM UTC
I always thought it was just a way to differentiate different vehicles. Desert Sand and Tropen which is desert sand with green. if you saw them side by side you'd describe the tropen pained vehicle as the "green one".
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Posted: Friday, June 09, 2017 - 02:19 AM UTC
Anthony,
As much as I'd love to tuck into the Tiger, I fly overseas in a week, and my bench is currently covered with a PZ IVh. I won't have time to get into it until August at best. I'll be lucky to finish it before Crusader to Gazala fires up.

Jacob and Dan,
Thanks!

Gaz

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Posted: Monday, June 12, 2017 - 10:21 PM UTC
not proof in anyway. But maybe a perception?

one companies view.



AgentG
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Posted: Tuesday, June 13, 2017 - 05:04 AM UTC
I'm afraid that call out sheet is, based on all we now know, woefully inaccurate.

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Posted: Tuesday, June 13, 2017 - 08:31 AM UTC
Tropen paint orders March 17, 1941 – Grunbraun RAL 8000 covering 2/3, Graugrun RAL 7008 covering 1/3.

Both of these colors have a slight pea green tint to them, thus the "green" Tunisian Tigers.
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Posted: Tuesday, June 13, 2017 - 09:16 AM UTC
Wasn't it already established that "332" was NOT painted gray but in fact Dunkelgelb, especially considering the time frame given on the sheet falls inside the period of use of that color?
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Posted: Tuesday, June 13, 2017 - 09:30 AM UTC

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Wasn't it already established that "332" was NOT painted gray but in fact Dunkelgelb, especially considering the time frame given on the sheet falls inside the period of use of that color?


Some conjecture leads us to believe 332 and some of it's mates were actually RAL 8000/7008 having been diverted to Russia after the surrender in Tunisia.

Regardless, not Dark Gray.

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Posted: Tuesday, June 13, 2017 - 09:32 AM UTC

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Tropen paint orders March 17, 1941 – Grunbraun RAL 8000 covering 2/3, Graugrun RAL 7008 covering 1/3.

Both of these colors have a slight pea green tint to them, thus the "green" Tunisian Tigers.


Neither color has a slight pea green tint. Both have a brown hue.

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Posted: Tuesday, June 13, 2017 - 10:14 AM UTC
I think that's where the "green" Tigers came from (RAL 8000/7008), IMHO:



Regards,
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Posted: Tuesday, June 13, 2017 - 10:14 AM UTC

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Tropen paint orders March 17, 1941 – Grunbraun RAL 8000 covering 2/3, Graugrun RAL 7008 covering 1/3.

Both of these colors have a slight pea green tint to them, thus the "green" Tunisian Tigers.


Neither color has a slight pea green tint. Both have a brown hue.


You're not accounting for the guy being color blind.
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Posted: Tuesday, June 13, 2017 - 10:28 PM UTC

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Tropen paint orders March 17, 1941 – Grunbraun RAL 8000 covering 2/3, Graugrun RAL 7008 covering 1/3.

Both of these colors have a slight pea green tint to them, thus the "green" Tunisian Tigers.


Neither color has a slight pea green tint. Both have a brown hue.



trusting swatch colors would be easier for me to believe if I didnt come across color codes showing different in dunkelgelb.
Headhunter506
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Posted: Tuesday, June 13, 2017 - 10:52 PM UTC
You're missing one.
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Posted: Tuesday, June 13, 2017 - 10:57 PM UTC
yes, the source for that swatch shows only those, go figure...
Mrclark7
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Posted: Friday, August 18, 2017 - 09:22 AM UTC
a little more info for the murky waters to read.

http://ftr.wot-news.com/2015/02/24/german-camouflage-and-tactical-markings-part-i-by-agarestretiak/
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Posted: Friday, August 18, 2017 - 10:07 AM UTC


Really? It's rather clear that what was available was used and that the results of that use varied.

He even refers to how modelers want a "right" or "wrong" pattern or color and that it simply doesn't exist. There are the standard colors that in actual usage varied enormously. There is no right or wrong, just a large ballpark where anything in the lines is fair. You like a paint? Use it so long as it's within the ballpark of possibilities. It's like quantom physics. The results are determined by the observer.
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Posted: Friday, August 18, 2017 - 10:20 AM UTC

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I personally find it difficult to believe enough stocks of US "olive drab" paint would have been that far forward at Kasserine Pass to have made it into German hands




Germany captured US equipment weeks before the battle of Kasserine Pass. This M3 was photographed on 20 January 1943 at the Karachoum Gap.

David


https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/6a/ee/85/6aee85560eda0b3e20c36c24072f76fd.jpg

I never noticed what appears to be an Sd.Kfz. 251/9 behind the M3 half-track. I was unaware that any of those made it to North Africa.

Cheers,

Scott
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