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MiniArt: 7.62-cm FK 39(r)Posted: Friday, May 26, 2017 - 05:01 PM UTC
Jack Legere reviews and builds the 7.62-cm FK 39(r) German Field Gun by MiniArt in 1/35th scale.
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deathdork
Joined: March 26, 2007
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Posted: Friday, May 26, 2017 - 10:19 PM UTC
Was the plastic excessively brittle or just the fact that the mold pour gates were large that gave you problems
vettejack
Florida, United States
Joined: November 23, 2012
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Posted: Saturday, May 27, 2017 - 06:17 AM UTC
Both...potentially a great looking gun that is overwhelmed by excessive part gate size and the over-engineered small part molding. The example I finished is unworthy of ever being considered for display or for entering a contest.
JFeder504
Nord, France
Joined: April 13, 2012
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Posted: Saturday, May 27, 2017 - 03:23 PM UTC
I'm currently building two kits of this gun. MiniArt just germanized the russian version by adding a muzzle brake. But one major german modification is a side protection for the gunner, which is missing in the kit. A hassle to make those guards by using plastic card and lead fuse wiring. Right side of the shield has modified russian box ( extended for the optic ) and the common demolition charge box. I would say the gun cradle is a hassle to build with the 3 parts design AND the pointless use of PE ( to be curved ) as upper housing on the cradle... I am a fan with that gun and you can feel free to contact me for some pics taken from the french Draguignan Artillery school. Also please note that this gun fired ammo almost the same as PaK40, the crates being stencilled "Patr 7,62cm Pak 36". I would like MiniArt to release the german version with solid rubber/dish wheels ( I CAN HELP THEM for that ! )
Taeuss
Manitoba, Canada
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Posted: Saturday, May 27, 2017 - 08:11 PM UTC
What nonsense is this in the intro? "re-rifled to take the German 76.2 round"? There was no such beast. They relined the barrels to take the German 75mm Pak 40 round once supplies of the captured 76.2 Russian round were scarce. Hardly effects the kit but you've got to stop the spread of misinformation as it appears.
KurtLaughlin
Pennsylvania, United States
Joined: January 18, 2003
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Posted: Saturday, May 27, 2017 - 09:05 PM UTC
Quoted Text
What nonsense is this in the intro? "re-rifled to take the German 76.2 round"? There was no such beast. They relined the barrels to take the German 75mm Pak 40 round once supplies of the captured 76.2 Russian round were scarce. Hardly effects the kit but you've got to stop the spread of misinformation as it appears.
It wasn't even that, from the evidence available, just a rechambering and the production of Pak40 like rounds. The Pak 40 used the 7.5cm Pzgr. 39 while the Pak 36(r) and Pak 39(r) used the 7.62cm Pzgr. 39 rot.
It's discussed here, slightly more than halfway down the first page. You have to wade through a good bit of utter bullsh1t though.
And just like the recent thread about which prime movers the US used for various weapons, you have people who who simply, absolutely, cannot accept that they were wrong in their supposedly factual statements, even when hard, objective documentation is presented to them. Irrefutable facts are just another option to them, equivalent to their mis-remembered, misunderstood, illogical bloviations.
There. I feel better now.
KL
Taeuss
Manitoba, Canada
Joined: January 03, 2016
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Posted: Monday, May 29, 2017 - 07:35 AM UTC
I went to the blog and found the discussion hilarious! So much hot air expended on a meaningless topic that even children should understand the differences on. As if AKs, as issued in 7.62x39, would possibly fire from any other weapon not rechambered to accept this round, and the reverse is just as absurd. Fitting said round into my 7.62 NATO rifle would be A BAD IDEA and the case-fired brass would be rather difficult to extract (read: virtually impossible in the field). Same with the 76.2 vs 75 PAK 40 debate. Funny stuff for anyone in the know. Also completely meaningless in a blog devoted to building models, so let's move on now that we've all had our fun.
vettejack
Florida, United States
Joined: November 23, 2012
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Posted: Monday, May 29, 2017 - 05:37 PM UTC
Quoted Text
I'm currently building two kits of this gun. MiniArt just germanized the russian version by adding a muzzle brake. But one major german modification is a side protection for the gunner, which is missing in the kit. A hassle to make those guards by using plastic card and lead fuse wiring. Right side of the shield has modified russian box ( extended for the optic ) and the common demolition charge box. I would say the gun cradle is a hassle to build with the 3 parts design AND the pointless use of PE ( to be curved ) as upper housing on the cradle... I am a fan with that gun and you can feel free to contact me for some pics taken from the french Draguignan Artillery school. Also please note that this gun fired ammo almost the same as PaK40, the crates being stencilled "Patr 7,62cm Pak 36". I would like MiniArt to release the german version with solid rubber/dish wheels ( I CAN HELP THEM for that ! )
I'll take you up on the offer of the pics from Draguignan. Much appreciated. PM me and I'll pass along an email address.