What would be best way to make zimmerit in 72nd scale i want to try this to make the panther tank cuckoo nicknamed by the guards division

From my experience, you apply X product, then throw the kit in the trash.

Any other ways lol

my best guess would be to scribe it directly with an XActo blade, using the sharp point to create the texture. In braille scale any putty will be overscaled.
That will be a long and tedious process but this will give the best effect as you'll be able to control the depth of your scribing.

good luck !

Try sanding to create a texture then scribing. As stated paste is way over scale for 1/72. HTH---John

I've done it a couple of times (only the ridged pattern though) using a pyrogravure. The key is to mark out the divisions between rows or columns, according to the prototype's orientation) first so that you keep each ridge the same width, which can be calculated by proportion of from photographs. It must have been in the 1980s that I did it and I think the results still pass muster. Tedious but that's modelling.Zimmerit was pretty thin so any additive process is liable to be overscale. Scribing with a cold blade sounds very hard to control adequately and unlikely to give you much depth.

Since "Cuckoo" was a Panther G why don't you just use Dragon's Panther G with Zimmerit? Kit # DRA7252. The kit is a previous release with PE.

Atak makes 1/72 scale zimmerit in resin. Eduard, Part and several others make PE zimmerit. I don't think it's too bad. Part makes some both pristine and battle damaged.

Thanks for the response guys
Ive tried looking fot the dragon panther g but everywhere is out of stock and put a post up in the buy,sell&trade section but hand no response..

So im gona use revell panther G.

Sabot do you know the number for the eduard etch?
The company part have you got a link for them ive never come across these .

Think im gona dig out some old plastic and have a practise at scribing

A loong, long time ago I did it by softening the surface with Tamiya Green Cap glue. Then scribbing it on the surface with a jeweller screwdriver. Working in small area at the time and letting it harden before starting another area...Slow, carefull work but the best results in this scale WO using any aftermarket.

Fjcabeza do you have any pics of your results of your zimmerit?

http://www.tracks-n-troops.eu/shop/index.php?main_page=index&manufacturers_id=58&zenid=ai1eebgetv9u8rll5nv1hekas6
https://www.eduard.com/store/index.php?stoken=16E400F0&force_sid=44fd0812a167968e88814197922e14eb&lang=1¤cy=2&listtype=search&searchparam=zimmerit&cl=search&tpl=&fnc=executefilter&attrfilter%5B%5D=&attrfilter%5B17%5D=1%2F72

Anthony, Tracks and Troops have the various Panther zimmerit sets by Part. http://tracks-n-troops.eu/shop/

beat me to it...

Thanks for the response and links guys. Was cgecking tracks and troops and ebay came uo with a dragon panther g late ha though no zimmerit sets for the dragon kit.

http://atakmodel.istore.pl/en/zimmerit-1-72

Well, I said looong time ago...About 30 years ago, so sorry no pictures.

I would be cautious with Tracks and Troops. Lots of items which appear "in stock" are actually not, and you may have to wait months for the order. And the owner is not a pleasant person to communicate with. My experience.

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optimistic to see the pics lol no worries


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thanks for youre input on experience i shall browse the web some more

Anthony,

I've made six purchases from T&T since December 2010 for a total of around $360. I've only purchased resin and PE detail sets from T&T.

Whenever I've made and order, I've found the best way to reach Milan Vins is via his T&T Facebook page. It gives links for sending either a private message or an e-mail.

Please remember that T&T doesn't seem to maintain much stock. Milan seems to compile your order by ordering from his sources after you've placed your order, and sometimes he has to wait to receive some items, or they may be unavailable. Whenever he has indicated to me that an item will take a while for him to get, he has given me the option to substitute for that item, cancel that item, or even send part of the order now and the balance when he receives it/them.

Milan is pretty much a one-man show, and I remember him saying that one morning he had to go through about 3,000 e-mails. Therefore, don't get antsy if he hasn't responded within a day or so.

Milan also has a rule of adding 20 Euro for shipping to your order, but this has always been reduced to a much more reasonable shipping amount when he actually charges your CC or when your PP transaction is completed. NOTE - I only use either PayPal or a Visa Gift Card to make orders with overseas shops, for the protection and to limit how much would be impacted if nefarious were to happen.

He uses really nice small cardboard boxes for shipping your items, and I've not had any arrive damaged. I did have an item that was missing a part, and he sent a completely new set as replacement free of charge.

I've been quite happy with the transactions I've had with Tracks & Troops, so I recommend them as a great on-line store. Just be patient and order a batch of items you need for future projects.

I hope this helps.

Yes, agree with all that Jeff said about T&T. I have made a purchase in the past where a part wasn't in stock for a very long time, but it did arrive eventually; the rest of the order arrived quite promptly. Also correct that he is fair on the postage even if his site has a slightly primitive way of dealing with postal charges. Checking with him first sounds reasonable.

On the original question, I checked what Alex Clark has to say on the subject in his Osprey book, and he advocates using Milliput. Broadly speaking, he roughens up the surface of the plastic to allow the Milliput to stick, then applies it in small blobs, pressing them on with his thumb until they join up to cover a smallish area - the size being determined by how much you will be able to work before it sets too hard. He then smooths it out using an old knife blade and lots of water, then applies the zimmerit texture.

Perhaps it is worth checking out the stock with Milan, if it's going to be a while, get hold of some Milliput and start having a go. Easy enough to practice on an old or unwanted kit or a piece of scrap first. I am definitely going to check this out at some point on one or other of the Dragon Panthers, or the Airfix KT.

@ Anthony. I found unused Zimmerit parts (mantlet, upper hull, turret, and rear plate) for Dragon's Panther G. If you have a Panther G (by Dragon) without Zimmerit these parts are completely replaceable. If interested let me know.

Jeff thanks for your input and tips of contact that is very helpfull for future reference.



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On the original question, I checked what Alex Clark has to say on the subject in his Osprey book, and he advocates using Milliput. Broadly speaking, he roughens up the surface of the plastic to allow the Milliput to stick, then applies it in small blobs, pressing them on with his thumb until they join up to cover a smallish area - the size being determined by how much you will be able to work before it sets too hard. He then smooths it out using an old knife blade and lots of water, then applies the zimmerit texture.

Perhaps it is worth checking out the stock with Milan, if it's going to be a while, get hold of some Milliput and start having a go. Easy enough to practice on an old or unwanted kit or a piece of scrap first. I am definitely going to check this out at some point on one or other of the Dragon Panthers, or the Airfix KT.
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mathew you thank you for that

Biggles2 ive pm'd you

guys you are all a great help thank you very much!