I will be posing pics soon on this build soon.
But what is kinda bugging me about it is the stacking of crates on the back like they have you do totally blocking full 360 of the turret. And attaching things to it like they will magically just stay there in the real world.
This bug any one else?
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Posted: Friday, June 16, 2017 - 09:41 AM UTC
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Posted: Friday, June 16, 2017 - 10:15 AM UTC
There will always be scope for further detailing. Looking forward to the photos.
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Posted: Friday, June 16, 2017 - 10:58 AM UTC
The same thing bothered me about some Vietnam M48 builds until I saw photos and talked to some veterans. You didn't traverse to the rear because you're not going backwards. So you could clog up the rear deck. Your wingman would cover the rear if necessary.
And there are all kinds of pictures of boxes spot welded or bolted to tanks for storage so they're not held by magic. The joins just aren't obvious in pictures.
There's also temporary storage of ammo that'll be loaded into the tank and the boxes dumped before going into combat. Sometimes there wasn't time to unpack the extra bullets so the crates were thrown into the back where they'd stay by their own weight until the ammo could be broken down and stowed properly.
Just because there's stuff all over doesn't mean the crew intends to have it like that forever and probably not go into combat like that.
And there are all kinds of pictures of boxes spot welded or bolted to tanks for storage so they're not held by magic. The joins just aren't obvious in pictures.
There's also temporary storage of ammo that'll be loaded into the tank and the boxes dumped before going into combat. Sometimes there wasn't time to unpack the extra bullets so the crates were thrown into the back where they'd stay by their own weight until the ammo could be broken down and stowed properly.
Just because there's stuff all over doesn't mean the crew intends to have it like that forever and probably not go into combat like that.
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Posted: Friday, June 16, 2017 - 08:08 PM UTC
Im creating points for tie downs on the turret.
I could understand some of that. But as in depicted in the movie, carrying extra shells exposed seem kinda looney. If you are the spear tip of the column and will be making first contact.
It just seems in hollywood and modeling that this seems plausible.
I could understand some of that. But as in depicted in the movie, carrying extra shells exposed seem kinda looney. If you are the spear tip of the column and will be making first contact.
It just seems in hollywood and modeling that this seems plausible.
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Posted: Saturday, June 17, 2017 - 12:19 AM UTC
Small arms ammunition however often was stored externally in the large wooden crates or in the smaller boxes. If it cooks off you're inside the tank. If it is cooking off in all likelihood there's a fire in which case the crew might be cooking too and past caring about ammo going off.
An anti-tank gun stored all their ammo outside in the open and the crew was all exposed. Why not a tank when the crew is all under armor? Why couldn't you store main gun ammo externally? It's not going to go off unless there's a fire or someone goes attaching the leads of a battery to the primer. In that case you'd probably already be dead. You're inside of a tank armored against shell splinters and explosions. It takes an armor defeating round to penetrate and kill you. Explosions on the back deck, even stored gear burning won't necessarily affect you inside.
Close that hatch and all kinds of things can go on outside that you just don't have to worry about. Unlike the crew of an anti-tank gun manning their gun with a pile of shells next to them.
But in the end you put the ammo inside so you can grab it to load the weapons. Sitting outside doesn't do you any good. Tank crews in World War II were notorious for putting ammo everywhere. Never enough bullets.
So I say feel free to put those boxes everywhere. As tankers say FIDO. f**k it, drive on.
Think like a tanker, not a modeler. I need bullets, because not having bullets means I'm dead. Bullets cooking off doesn't worry me as much as not having them when I need them. So put them everywhere. Fight to the last round and then surrender. Well surrender ain't an option so carry as many bullets as you can. FIDO.
Besides plenty of things in World War II came in big wooden crates besides ammo and once the ammo was stored that big wooden crate could be used to store other stuff.
An anti-tank gun stored all their ammo outside in the open and the crew was all exposed. Why not a tank when the crew is all under armor? Why couldn't you store main gun ammo externally? It's not going to go off unless there's a fire or someone goes attaching the leads of a battery to the primer. In that case you'd probably already be dead. You're inside of a tank armored against shell splinters and explosions. It takes an armor defeating round to penetrate and kill you. Explosions on the back deck, even stored gear burning won't necessarily affect you inside.
Close that hatch and all kinds of things can go on outside that you just don't have to worry about. Unlike the crew of an anti-tank gun manning their gun with a pile of shells next to them.
But in the end you put the ammo inside so you can grab it to load the weapons. Sitting outside doesn't do you any good. Tank crews in World War II were notorious for putting ammo everywhere. Never enough bullets.
So I say feel free to put those boxes everywhere. As tankers say FIDO. f**k it, drive on.
Think like a tanker, not a modeler. I need bullets, because not having bullets means I'm dead. Bullets cooking off doesn't worry me as much as not having them when I need them. So put them everywhere. Fight to the last round and then surrender. Well surrender ain't an option so carry as many bullets as you can. FIDO.
Besides plenty of things in World War II came in big wooden crates besides ammo and once the ammo was stored that big wooden crate could be used to store other stuff.
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Posted: Saturday, June 17, 2017 - 12:46 AM UTC
I all for doing one offs and what if builds for sure. Just seems a little loopy seeing so many fury builds with 75mm ammo crates on the front hull and double stacked two high on the rear.
Just wondering where the props department got there ideas from.
Just wondering where the props department got there ideas from.