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Defender Wolf WMIK questions
HermannB
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Posted: Saturday, June 24, 2017 - 02:27 PM UTC
I have got a good price for HB Defender XD Wolf WMIK kit at my LHS. Now I wonder if there are any good references of both m.g. and MILAN equiupped Wolf out on the net. I have noticed that HB includes a large box in the the MILAN version, something that makes me wonder.
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Posted: Saturday, June 24, 2017 - 03:33 PM UTC
Hi
The large box is a Milan storage container
HermannB
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Posted: Saturday, June 24, 2017 - 04:24 PM UTC
Is it the seame MILAN bulk container that is available from Accurate Armour?
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Posted: Saturday, June 24, 2017 - 07:38 PM UTC

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I wonder if there are any good references of both m.g. and MILAN equiupped Wolf out on the net.



Here are a few close-ups :

http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/234928621-land-rover-wolf-weapons-mount-installation-kit-wmik/

http://www.adrianstomcat.co.uk/WMIK.htm

This one is a 1:1 replica...

http://car-from-uk.com/sale.php?id=97967&country=uk

HB kit has some flaws...

http://www.network54.com/Forum/110741/thread/1313843953/WMIK

H.P.
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Posted: Saturday, June 24, 2017 - 08:50 PM UTC
Maybe these are replicas as well...

https://www.flickr.com/photos/51592478@N06/with/5492028733/

H.P.
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Posted: Saturday, June 24, 2017 - 10:22 PM UTC
Oooh Frenchy, my hero and savior...
f you could find the same amount of pics from the RSOV family of vehicles, you will be my hero for a lifetime.
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Posted: Saturday, June 24, 2017 - 11:26 PM UTC
You're welcome H.H.

I can send you a few low quality scans of RSOV's from the old Concord book dealing with Rangers (providing you don't have this book already of course...)

H.P.
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Posted: Saturday, June 24, 2017 - 11:47 PM UTC
Hi Frenchy,
thanks for the offer, but the Concord is THE standard that I use for my RSOV build. I only wished that the Concord published more pics in the book.
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Posted: Sunday, June 25, 2017 - 01:34 AM UTC
HB kit has some flaws...

http://www.network54.com/Forum/110741/thread/1313843953/WMIK

H.P.[/quote]

Just to expand on this a bit...

What I didn't mention in the ML thread was that the wheel track is too wide and that the body sits too high on the axles.

You need to chop off the top 'coil' of each of the coil springs to lower the the sit of the vehicle a bit and also remove about 2mm from the length of the axles so that the wheels fit further inside the wheel arches.

After I'd finished the Milan carrier version I built a more complex R-WMIK. The progress shots of that may also be helpful to you. For this second project I modified the WMIK roll cage in a better way and moved the weapons ring forward.

Stage 1
Stage 2
Painting
Finished

Regards,
John
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Posted: Monday, June 26, 2017 - 10:02 AM UTC
Hi John, thanks for the insight. I plan on bulding a R-WMIK+ after some photos from Tankograd Militärfahrzeug.
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Posted: Tuesday, June 27, 2017 - 01:30 AM UTC
An R-WMIK+ is a bigger challenge than the original R-WMIK because you need to make the whole rear body wider - everything from behind the cab. How much wider?

If you check out the R-WMIK+ you will note that the rear wheel arches do not have the usual rubber 'eyebrow' around the edge. The rear body panels have been extended out to what was the outer edge of those eyebrows.

I took the photo below back in 2013 - I've highlighted where the rear body widens. The cab doors close at a slight angle to accommodate the wider body, rather than lying flat along the vehicle.

Regards,
John

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Posted: Tuesday, June 27, 2017 - 01:38 AM UTC
Plus some more (also my photos)...

R-WMIK+ Walkround
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Posted: Tuesday, June 27, 2017 - 09:47 AM UTC
Thanks!
HermannB
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Posted: Tuesday, June 27, 2017 - 10:08 AM UTC
After checking the pics, I have some more questions. The boxes on the front fenders are radio antennas or ECM antennnas? I noticed also the COMROD antenna mount. I guess the green box/device on the right fender is the ECM "generator"? Where is teh vehicles radio mounted?. I guess I could install on my model Live Resins H&K Grenade Maschinegun instead of the .50 cal.?
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Posted: Tuesday, June 27, 2017 - 04:32 PM UTC
Yes - the boxes on the fenders of the R-WMIK+ are part of the ECM suite. However, on earlier WMIKs, the Clansman radio system was still in use so the radio aerials were mounted on square TUAAM boxes. The newer Bowman system uses a more 'American-style' aerial mount on the fender.

The Bowman radios are mounted in the rear of the vehicle along the left (passenger) side. I have a couple of photos (not mine) somewhere of the mounting frames that I'll dig out when I get home tonight. What you will struggle to find are any photos of the actual Bowman radio units in place.

Yes, the H&K GMG is the standard British weapon of this type and is often fitted to both the WMIK and the Jackal/Coyote.

Regards,
John
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Posted: Wednesday, June 28, 2017 - 01:29 AM UTC
As promised


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Posted: Wednesday, June 28, 2017 - 01:49 AM UTC
Great info John. Thanks for sharing.
HermannB
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Posted: Wednesday, June 28, 2017 - 11:11 AM UTC
Hi John, thanks for all the infos. Just ordered some AM stuff for the HB kit. Might not get an easy conversion, but hey, I am a modeller.
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Posted: Wednesday, June 28, 2017 - 02:03 PM UTC
John,

Great pics - thanks for sharing. Do you happen to have any more info on the armour on either side of the tray?
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