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Dragon's M752 Lance Missile
27-1025
Joined: September 16, 2004
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Posted: Tuesday, November 14, 2017 - 09:54 AM UTC
Here's my attempt to show the metal tabs for the seat hinges. Just need to be painted with the base interior color. Not keen on waiting for the Panzer Art release of the 113 road wheels, so I may just opt to use some from Academy which to me look better than the Dragon offering.
27-1025
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Posted: Monday, November 13, 2017 - 08:37 AM UTC
I just found out the reason you don’t see those bench seats in any operational pictures is they were removed. Crews didn’t like them and they interfered with the control surface containers. They were light weight metal not wood. I think that solves my dilemma, leaving the things but will add the metal tabs the seats were mounted to.
27-1025
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Posted: Sunday, November 12, 2017 - 11:24 PM UTC
Test fit on one of the crew bench seats. The brackets will be cut to size so the edge of the seat rests back from the edge. Still not real sure of the seats period as I can't find any pictures of them installed and I don't have any relevant TM' that might show this stuff.
27-1025
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Posted: Thursday, November 09, 2017 - 08:16 AM UTC
It's some of the small things that are bogging me down. In this case it's the bench type seats in the 'fighting compartment'. During my limited exposure to the M752/667 I don't recall any of those details and as best I can see from the pictures is that they were hinged and folded up. What I don't know is if the hinge was a single long steel rod attached to metal tabs welded to the side walls or small individual metal pins.
The kit items modified by shortening their overall length to fit the kit interior, and adding small extensions for the hinge sections.
The hinge sections added and each has been drilled out.
The kit items modified by shortening their overall length to fit the kit interior, and adding small extensions for the hinge sections.
The hinge sections added and each has been drilled out.
27-1025
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Posted: Thursday, September 14, 2017 - 01:37 AM UTC
Work on some of the more fun bits. Finishing up the launching truss assembly and the missile itself. Missile needs a coat of flat varnish before pinning it to the launcher.
TankCarl
Joined: May 10, 2002
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Posted: Wednesday, September 13, 2017 - 05:26 AM UTC
The 'air hose" may be filtered air supply, for NBC environments. It would plug into the armor crewman's M25 gas mask's filter container.
27-1025
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Posted: Tuesday, September 12, 2017 - 11:33 PM UTC
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I am assuming that the additional items came from the Hobby Fan kit? Or was it easy enough to find them from another source?
The placard and instrument decals came from Archer for the M113. The canteens, first aid box and fire extinguisher are from the spares box. The accelerator pedal is from an Eduard PE set for the M548 and the all the other bits are spares from 1/32 scale aircraft kits. The vacuum hose is wire wrapped wire.
Jacques
Joined: March 04, 2003
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Posted: Tuesday, September 12, 2017 - 10:20 PM UTC
I am assuming that the additional items came from the Hobby Fan kit? Or was it easy enough to find them from another source?
ironhull
Joined: November 23, 2013
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Posted: Tuesday, September 12, 2017 - 11:17 AM UTC
This is a great thread. 
27-1025
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Posted: Tuesday, September 12, 2017 - 08:11 AM UTC
One area that needs a bit of dressing up is the crew cab area if you're going to leave it open. I added the gear selector box, accelerator pedal, some type of air or vacuum hose, canteens, first aid box, fire extinguisher and numerous instruction placards. Still needs a coat of flat.
27-1025
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Posted: Thursday, September 07, 2017 - 08:14 AM UTC
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Bump for an update, how goes your build?
Being lazy with it but need to get back to it and finish this one up. Doing a little bit of hurricane prep here and hoping we dodge a bullet, but may get some time to play with the kit this weekend.
Jacques
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Posted: Wednesday, September 06, 2017 - 04:19 AM UTC
Bump for an update, how goes your build?
27-1025
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Posted: Sunday, August 06, 2017 - 12:19 AM UTC
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A question Chris: I have the Hobby Fan kit but I am tempted to buy the Dragon one as it has already been on sale at deep discount. Knowing what you do now, would rather have the Dragon or the Hobby Fan?
KL
Truth be told I'd go with the Dragon kit. I've also got the Hobby Fan kit but I hate working with full resin kits which is why its sat on the shelf. The Dragon kit has its issues but it's not all bad.
KurtLaughlin
Joined: January 18, 2003
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Posted: Saturday, August 05, 2017 - 11:47 PM UTC
A question Chris: I have the Hobby Fan kit but I am tempted to buy the Dragon one as it has already been on sale at deep discount. Knowing what you do now, would rather have the Dragon or the Hobby Fan?
KL
KL
27-1025
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Posted: Saturday, August 05, 2017 - 11:12 PM UTC
Just need to add the large equipment box on the launch truss frame.
Finally have the forward cradle and frame finished and attached.
Added some wire screens to the engine deck.
The drivers compartment is not glued down yet, still need to added the instruments and a bunch of data placards. Seat cushions also need painting.
Finally have the forward cradle and frame finished and attached.
Added some wire screens to the engine deck.
The drivers compartment is not glued down yet, still need to added the instruments and a bunch of data placards. Seat cushions also need painting.
27-1025
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Posted: Monday, July 31, 2017 - 10:29 PM UTC
Laying down some base colors for the interior portions and the primary exterior color for the MERDC scheme.
27-1025
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Posted: Sunday, July 30, 2017 - 05:03 AM UTC
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Whos handles are you using on the "rebuilt" control surface containers? Other replacement parts? I am following your build with the intention of correcting the kit at least as much as you have, so any specifics will help.
I haven't put the carry handles on yet. The resin parts are tie down strap ratchets.
I stole those from the Hobby Fan kit. The other equipment boxes are resin items from DEF models modified a bit and they kind of look the part.
27-1025
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Posted: Sunday, July 30, 2017 - 04:57 AM UTC
Just noticed that. Thanks for those pics; very helpful.
The ratchets were procured from the Hobby Fan kit.
The ratchets were procured from the Hobby Fan kit.
Jacques
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Posted: Sunday, July 30, 2017 - 02:33 AM UTC
Whos handles are you using on the "rebuilt" control surface containers? Other replacement parts? I am following your build with the intention of correcting the kit at least as much as you have, so any specifics will help.
KurtLaughlin
Joined: January 18, 2003
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Posted: Sunday, July 30, 2017 - 02:30 AM UTC
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Redid the support cradle. Just needs some bolt details added and I'll be happy with it.
I don't know if you need the bolts:
Where did you get the ratchet clamps?
KL
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Posted: Saturday, July 29, 2017 - 10:52 PM UTC
Redid the support cradle. Just needs some bolt details added and I'll be happy with it. Also finished up the second control surface container.
27-1025
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Posted: Friday, July 28, 2017 - 10:13 PM UTC
Will have to completely redo this item. I used the support beam from the Hobby Fan kit as a template but it turns out to be way too tall to fit correctly on the Dragon kit. The hull dimensions are different between the two kits.
This is the Hobby Fan part I'm using as a template.
This is the Hobby Fan part I'm using as a template.
27-1025
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Posted: Thursday, July 27, 2017 - 04:44 AM UTC
Trying to add a few more missing details. I just wish Dragon had done just a bit more research and not cut so many corners on this kit.
27-1025
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Posted: Wednesday, July 26, 2017 - 07:51 PM UTC
I have no scratch building skills but this is my attempts to correct the control surface containers. One down, one to go. Yes the top still needs the two handles added.
Vodnik
Joined: March 26, 2003
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Posted: Monday, July 24, 2017 - 06:13 PM UTC
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Probably from a TM illustration with a scale in the corner.
That's a good one... Dragon designer using a TM
They simply used some photos of the container and designed it with no knowledge whatsoever about its purpose...
If they had used the TM they would at least know what it is for and could guess the size...
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