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Lathe and Plaster Walls/ Carentan update
nato308
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Posted: Monday, March 01, 2004 - 04:04 AM UTC
I have already built a framed wall and ceiling with Lathe for my Carentan dio to do damage to the interior of a building. Which medium will give me the best results, using plaster or drywall mud, or I saw an artical somewhere (can't remember where, may be here) about using a card stock paper?
As for my progress on the dio I am still carving the plaster street as breaks are needed, I alternate back and forth working on the buildings and the interiors of. I am hoping to get some photo's up and into my gallery by this weekend.
zer0_co0l
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Posted: Wednesday, March 10, 2004 - 11:54 AM UTC
got a stupid question what is drywall mutt?

and when eagle looks here maybe he can tell you what he used for his rmg basement that looks great for walls and offcourse you could put on some torn wallpaper?

like the concept of the dio very much.

but WHERE ARE THE PICTURES

*(sorry had to get that out my system)*
Mojo
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Posted: Wednesday, March 10, 2004 - 12:15 PM UTC
zero cool...

I think you mean drywall mud.. its also know as drywall compound.. its used to fill and finish the seams on drywall after its been installed.. gives a nice smooth finish for paint or paper..

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Posted: Wednesday, March 10, 2004 - 12:42 PM UTC
Honestly at 1/35th scale I don't know if you would need much in the way of 'mud' or plaster.....
The following is a dio Teacher (a member here) is working on. He did a plaster lath ceiling. He used styrene strips for the lath part and I do not believe he used any plaster (I could be wrong, I'll PM Teach to check).
https://gallery.kitmaker.net/data/500/2383Arm11.jpg

I too am doing the same thing for my RMG dio. I used sytrene strips glued to the rafters and painted them, then damaged the building. On plaster lath the plaster is pretty thin and would be pretty hard to see and pretty hard to do and keep it to scale.

If you use anything go with the thinnest stuff you have.

I tried card stock and it was ok for large surfaces, but if you want to represent damage, its tough to get it right.
nato308
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Posted: Wednesday, March 10, 2004 - 11:39 PM UTC
Well, I waited for a response for two days after my post and was disappointed not to hear any suggestions so I expiremented. l used wood strips which I hand cut thin and I actually used molding plaster over my lathe, I was rather pleased. I sanded the plaster as thin as possible and then went to town breaking everything up. I think it looks great. It even went through the cracks between the lathe strips so that when the walls were "destroyed" the plaster actually built up behind the lathe like it reall does. The only thing I messed up was when I went back to age the wood I got it too dark so I will have to go back and lighten it all a bit, I hate creating more work for myself! The in progress photos are coming, But my girlfriend and I both got a double whammy as both our mothers have been ill and in the hospital, no really! So I WILL try this weekend.
slodder
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Posted: Thursday, March 11, 2004 - 02:52 AM UTC
Sorry I didn't catch this thread when it first came up (doesn't usually happen)

I got confirmation from Teacher - he DID use a thin layer of 'mud' on his lath.

Sounds like your experiment was a good one. You may not have to lighten the wood. If you look at reference photos of destroyed buildings, the dust and grime and potential smoke/fire damage darken things quite a bit.
nato308
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Posted: Thursday, March 11, 2004 - 05:15 AM UTC
No worries, it forced me to make a choice and it worked well. I think the colors will be ok by the time I fill the place with rubble and the like give it the heavy wear and tear look. Thanks for your efforts. I'm affraid my AMS is becoming too much of a problem, this project just loves to devour my time.
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