Hi all
Need a bit of help with the outer roadwheel of my Tiger 1 kits - DML 6608 (Tiger131) & 6820 (Tunisian Tiger). Both kit instructions are basically the same at steps 2 & 3. Step 2 shows the outer wheel to be parts G7/G8 yet Step 3 shows these same wheels as G5/G6. Any ideas which way I should go here?

Thanks in advance

No, it doesn't show that at all. There is a wheel attached to another wheel at that point.

David

I was gonna say..David Byrden is the man to ask.

Right on David

Shaun,

If you have any way of getting the page in the instructions posted here (scanned page, or photograph the page), I might be able to help (though Mr. Byrden is THE expert)! I've built several DLM Tiger Is, and I'm sure I will be able to help you, IF I see the instructions. It turns out that I am going to buy both the Tiger models you mention in your post, but I don't have them yet, hence my need to see the instructions for those models.

Curt,

You can look here:

Tiger I Tunisian Initial s.Pz,Abt.501 and Pz.Rgt.7

Hi Shaun,
First of all take a close look at step 3 and count the layers of road wheels. There are two different groups, one "inner" and one "outer". If you count the layers of wheel discs there is first a single disc, then a pair, another pair and finally a single disc. This comes to 1 + 2 + 2 + 1 = 6 layers of discs. I haven't had the misfortune to have to replace one of the innermost discs but I think it requires removing the wheel discs from up to 6 axles (an expert may tell me that I am wrong ....Edit: see next post by David, looks like one or more discs need to be removed from up to 7 axles, even the idler and half the sprocket in some cases ...)
The "inner" has two discs close together near the inner half of the track and one disc at the outer edge of the track.
The "outer" has two discs close together at the outer half of the track and one disc close to the hull side.
Step 2 assembles the closely spaced discs of the "inner" group and the lonely and one of the close discs of the "outer" group.
Step 3 assembles the lonely disc of the "inner" group and the second of the two closely spaced discs of the "outer" group.

Now check the part numbers and follow the arrows.
Step 2: First assemble the innermost single disc (layer 1), then assemble the innermost pair of discs (layer 2 and 3), then the innermost disc of the outer pair (layer 4).
Step 3: First assemble the second/outer disc of the outer pair (layer 5), then assemble the lonely disc on the axle of the inner pair (layer 6).

/ Robin

Edit:
Added images for ease of reference.
Step 2


Step 3

Study this diagram:



David

Now compare that to the T-34 suspension,and you wonder why they came up eith such a PITA set up.

Because the Tiger was twice as heavy and they didn't know how to design stronger wheels.

There, you can stop wondering.

David

And all this time I thought they were the best of the best, and just liked making simple things as complex as possible!

G7(G8) are the inner wheel of a pair, G5(G6) are the outer wheel of a pair. In David's diagram the pairs of wheels with the line through them. I had a look at the instructions on Hobby Search.

Anthony, it was a way to get more tortion bars in the chassis and to spread the load more evenly across the track. However you are right. Just because it is designed to work doesn't mean it is designed for easy maintenance. Kind of like changing spark plugs in a big block 76 trans am.

Thank you gentlemen for all the replies. I appreciate everyone's assistance.

Shaun