Well I do not like the included tracks in the Takom kit so replacing with AFV Club tracks, are the AFV Club 35037 tracks for the Pershing correct T184E1 ?
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AFV Club tracks for the M28 right for the M47
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Posted: Monday, August 14, 2017 - 06:03 PM UTC
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Posted: Monday, August 14, 2017 - 07:36 PM UTC
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Well I do not like the included tracks in the Takom kit so replacing with AFV Club tracks, are the AFV Club 35037 tracks for the Pershing correct T184E1 ?
Thanks
Don't know about the M28 comparison off hand, but, yes, I am also disappointed about the tracks in the Takom kits: loaded with sink marks (in this day and age of modeling).
Now, the two options I will suggest to you is below (others will chime in...heed their advice as well that will give you an educated choice).
Two types of tracks were used on M47's. The T80E6 (the true designation in the M47 manual, not the modeling designation), is a steel-grouser, rubber-backed track. The T84E1 is a rubber track and rubber-backed as well. The tracks are interchangeable without any alteration to the suspension system. It takes 86 track shoes per side.
You could end up being +/- one link which would rely on the cumulative construction of the M47 kit and the resulting track tension after assembling either Friul kit. You won't be judged on that.
IMHO, run as fast as possible, and as far away as possible, from the T84E1/T80E1 tracks from either AFV Club and Bronco. They are most difficult track to model. The work involved is tedious and demanding, and the parts often break because they are so delicate. But, there are folks who like them too. I don't begrudge others in their choice/preference.
If you want to mount the T80E1 steel chevron grouser track, then get the Friul kit ATL-145 (identified as T80E6 in the M47 manual). You'll see these tracks used on Jordanian, Iranian, Bosnian, and Portuguese M47's (et al).
If your prefer the rubber chevron T84E1 style track, then purchase kit ATL-156.
Both sets have the correct track guides (pictured below) for use on the M47 kits. I have fitted both sets of Friul tracks to the Takom kit (as well as the Testors/Italeri kit) track drive sprockets...and they will fit just fine.
Click on photo to expand it...
T84E1 track...rubber-backed
T84E1 track...rubber tracked
T80E1 track...Jordanian M47, 1967 Six day War
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Posted: Monday, August 14, 2017 - 08:00 PM UTC
I have never had an issue building AFV Club double pin tracks. Tedious, yes, but I feel the results are worth it.
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Posted: Monday, August 14, 2017 - 08:07 PM UTC
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I have never had an issue building AFV Club double pin tracks. Tedious, yes, but I feel the results are worth it.
G
They do look good when complete...but I have 10 thumbs now that I'm older.
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Posted: Tuesday, August 15, 2017 - 12:11 AM UTC
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I have never had an issue building AFV Club double pin tracks. Tedious, yes, but I feel the results are worth it.
G
Many years ago I had problems with the end connectors cracking/splitting. Some glue fixed it but it was slightly annoying ...
/ Robin
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Posted: Tuesday, August 15, 2017 - 05:23 AM UTC
I was initially skeptical of the T80E6 designation because I knew the online version of the M47 TM was the initial issue and had some typos. I checked my references and it is correct, but the T80E6 is not the same as the T80E1. The T80E1 grousers were 1 inch high while those on the T80E6 were 1-1/2 inches high. A minute difference, but it explains the different designations.
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Posted: Tuesday, August 15, 2017 - 06:13 PM UTC
Thanks to all AFV Club on order.
The tracks suck. Instead of wasting all that time , and money with a jig to build them, could of thrown in a set DS tracks like Dragon uses , and been done with it.IMHO
Cheers
The tracks suck. Instead of wasting all that time , and money with a jig to build them, could of thrown in a set DS tracks like Dragon uses , and been done with it.IMHO
Cheers