_GOTOBOTTOM
Armor/AFV: Modern Armor
Modern armor in general.
Hosted by Darren Baker
Best BMP2/3
Bricksy1969
Visit this Community
England - North West, United Kingdom
Joined: September 19, 2006
KitMaker: 262 posts
Armorama: 251 posts
Posted: Monday, September 04, 2017 - 06:51 PM UTC
Hi all

Am looking to build a BMP2 or 3 (preferable with working suspension) in service in Syria


any advice gladly recieved
RobinNilsson
Staff MemberTOS Moderator
KITMAKER NETWORK
Visit this Community
Stockholm, Sweden
Joined: November 29, 2006
KitMaker: 6,693 posts
Armorama: 5,562 posts
Posted: Monday, September 04, 2017 - 07:03 PM UTC
Trumpeter has 13 different versions including BMP-1, -2, and -3. I don't know if they have a working suspension. The suspension arms are separate parts but you may need to put in some work if you want to position the suspension for anything else than flat ground.
They are the most modern of the available kits and the only realistic alternative.

Dragon made the first ones in the 1990'ies, don't think they are available anymore but don't buy one even if you could find one.
Zvezda makes one but it could be the old Dragon molds, stay away from it.
/ Robin

Edit:
Trumpeters Russian BMP-3 IFV
https://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10222500
in case you would like to take a look in the box
stephane
Visit this Community
Hauts-de-Seine, France
Joined: October 10, 2005
KitMaker: 432 posts
Armorama: 429 posts
Posted: Monday, September 04, 2017 - 11:38 PM UTC
Do you have some proof about the use of BMP3 in Syria (Russian or Syrian forces)??

The BMP1/2/3 serie from Trumpeter are all very good kits!


grunt136mike
Visit this Community
Florida, United States
Joined: November 24, 2012
KitMaker: 1,896 posts
Armorama: 1,858 posts
Posted: Tuesday, September 05, 2017 - 12:00 AM UTC
Hi;

There are No kit's of either the BMP-2/3 that have working suspension's !! Altho its really easy to Articulate the suspension for uneven ground, you just need extra track lengths ! The only Good kit's are Trumpeter's ! BMP-2 or 3 !! The BMP-1 is also A good kit.

CHEERS; MIKE.
KurtLaughlin
Visit this Community
Pennsylvania, United States
Joined: January 18, 2003
KitMaker: 2,402 posts
Armorama: 2,377 posts
Posted: Tuesday, September 05, 2017 - 12:05 AM UTC

Quoted Text

Hi;

There are No kit's of either the BMP-2/3 that have working suspension's !! Altho its really easy to Articulate the suspension for uneven ground, you just need extra track lengths ! The only Good kit's are Trumpeter's ! BMP-2 or 3 !! The BMP-1 is also A good kit.

CHEERS; MIKE.


Why would you need extra track? The real vehicle's tracks stay the same length regardless of the terrain.

KL
RobinNilsson
Staff MemberTOS Moderator
KITMAKER NETWORK
Visit this Community
Stockholm, Sweden
Joined: November 29, 2006
KitMaker: 6,693 posts
Armorama: 5,562 posts
Posted: Tuesday, September 05, 2017 - 12:15 AM UTC

Quoted Text


Quoted Text

Hi;

There are No kit's of either the BMP-2/3 that have working suspension's !! Altho its really easy to Articulate the suspension for uneven ground, you just need extra track lengths ! The only Good kit's are Trumpeter's ! BMP-2 or 3 !! The BMP-1 is also A good kit.

CHEERS; MIKE.


Why would you need extra track? The real vehicle's tracks stay the same length regardless of the terrain.

KL

Indeed, but it usually requires adjusting more roadwheels than just the one that is climbing over a rock or something.
Sometimes the first and last roadwheels will get pulled up to provide the extra half a link needed in the middle. It's a bit easier when the track is hanging loose on the upside (Panther, Tiger, T-34 et.c).
Getting it really correct requires good photos or knowledge about the 1:1 vehicle.

/ Robin
pgb3476
Visit this Community
Texas, United States
Joined: March 11, 2007
KitMaker: 977 posts
Armorama: 976 posts
Posted: Tuesday, September 05, 2017 - 01:42 AM UTC
I have yet to see any BMP-3's in Syria. Plenty of 1's and 2's tho.
grunt136mike
Visit this Community
Florida, United States
Joined: November 24, 2012
KitMaker: 1,896 posts
Armorama: 1,858 posts
Posted: Tuesday, September 05, 2017 - 01:43 AM UTC
Hi;
The limitation's on scale model's to accurate the suspension is very hard without A extra length of track. An added link adds the necessary extra length of stretching the track. I have over the years built A few on bases with uneven ground and its hard to make it look accurate !

CHEERS; MIKE.
jasegreene
Visit this Community
Florida, United States
Joined: October 21, 2013
KitMaker: 751 posts
Armorama: 751 posts
Posted: Tuesday, September 05, 2017 - 02:23 AM UTC
Trumpeter is best for a BMP-2.Those old DML/Dragon/Zvezda are very inaccurate.Anyway the only location in the Mideast that is using BMP-3s in combat right now is the UAE where there are fighting in Yemen.
Bricksy1969
Visit this Community
England - North West, United Kingdom
Joined: September 19, 2006
KitMaker: 262 posts
Armorama: 251 posts
Posted: Tuesday, September 05, 2017 - 08:25 PM UTC
Thanks chaps will check the Trumpeter versions out.

Paul
bison126
Visit this Community
Correze, France
Joined: June 10, 2004
KitMaker: 5,329 posts
Armorama: 5,204 posts
Posted: Tuesday, September 05, 2017 - 11:47 PM UTC

Quoted Text


Quoted Text

Hi;

There are No kit's of either the BMP-2/3 that have working suspension's !! Altho its really easy to Articulate the suspension for uneven ground, you just need extra track lengths ! The only Good kit's are Trumpeter's ! BMP-2 or 3 !! The BMP-1 is also A good kit.

CHEERS; MIKE.


Why would you need extra track? The real vehicle's tracks stay the same length regardless of the terrain.

KL

You're right Kurt but don't forget that the tracks tension system is not working on a kit like on the real vehicle.
jphillips
Visit this Community
Arizona, United States
Joined: February 25, 2007
KitMaker: 1,066 posts
Armorama: 789 posts
Posted: Wednesday, September 06, 2017 - 12:26 AM UTC
No Kuwaiti BMP-3s are in Yemen?
 _GOTOTOP