it will be interesting to see how much of the new sherman is actually new and what if any is still from the old italeri kit
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mikeli125
Joined: December 24, 2002
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Posted: Thursday, March 04, 2004 - 01:53 AM UTC
just when you thought your bank balance recovered from christmas think again!
it will be interesting to see how much of the new sherman is actually new and what if any is still from the old italeri kit
it will be interesting to see how much of the new sherman is actually new and what if any is still from the old italeri kit
tazz
Joined: July 21, 2002
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Posted: Thursday, March 04, 2004 - 04:04 AM UTC
wow that king tiger looks good.
i just picked up a king tiger, i guess i will get this one also lol
and i like that kettenkrad i would like to pick that one up also
i just picked up a king tiger, i guess i will get this one also lol
and i like that kettenkrad i would like to pick that one up also
sgirty
Joined: February 12, 2003
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Posted: Thursday, March 04, 2004 - 05:52 AM UTC
Hi. Just happened to pick up the Dragon #6189 kit here a couple of weeks ago and was really impressed by the plastic on it, so I'll have to have this second one to go with the first. And they both will go well with MMiR's new Tiger book as well.
And the Stug III will be most probably a 'have-to' as well. To compare with Tamiya's Stug III that I built here a couple years ago, if for nothing else. Now wonder where I can find those Fuilmodel tracks as a really good price? That's the real killer. Plus some PE.
Guess I'm a Panzer-holic. Oh well, could be worse. Take care, Sgirty
And the Stug III will be most probably a 'have-to' as well. To compare with Tamiya's Stug III that I built here a couple years ago, if for nothing else. Now wonder where I can find those Fuilmodel tracks as a really good price? That's the real killer. Plus some PE.
Guess I'm a Panzer-holic. Oh well, could be worse. Take care, Sgirty
darkstar
Joined: July 22, 2002
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Posted: Thursday, March 04, 2004 - 05:55 AM UTC
still nothin new in modern armor 
Ranger74
Joined: April 04, 2002
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Posted: Thursday, March 04, 2004 - 06:02 AM UTC
I was going to say, "Just more German crap", but then the M4A2 came up on the screen :-)
greatbrit
Joined: May 14, 2003
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Posted: Thursday, March 04, 2004 - 06:20 AM UTC
im not impressed, even by german standards theres nothing original!
the sherman is welcome, but academy have already got one out. so why do the same variant? why not a 75mm armed M4A2?
cheers
joe
the sherman is welcome, but academy have already got one out. so why do the same variant? why not a 75mm armed M4A2?
cheers
joe
ptruhe
Joined: March 05, 2003
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Posted: Thursday, March 04, 2004 - 07:17 AM UTC
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still nothin new in modern armor
How much more of this WWII stuff do we need. Pretty soon we'll have enough variations that they will have to subclass by where the vehicle was produced, the name of the guys who worked on it and the day of the week it rolled off the assembly line.
Paul
But I'm just ladying because I build modern armor.
greatbrit
Joined: May 14, 2003
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Posted: Thursday, March 04, 2004 - 07:19 AM UTC
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Pretty soon we'll have enough variations that they will have to subclass by where the vehicle was produced, the name of the guys who worked on it and the day of the week it rolled off the assembly line.
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well if you like german ww2 armour you can!
why do you think us allied modellers get fed up?
cheers
joe
kiltman
Joined: December 12, 2003
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Posted: Thursday, March 04, 2004 - 07:52 AM UTC
Anyone notice the box art for the Sherman? The tank is sitting in a bombed out area with the hatches open and the transport support for the barrel still attached. They must have went into combat and then noticed the problem and abandon it right there!!! LOL
StukeSowle
Joined: November 08, 2002
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Posted: Thursday, March 04, 2004 - 07:53 AM UTC
Hmmm, another thread turned into a "look the world is against Allied vehicle modelers" thread.
Sure, I'd love to see some modern stuff, but I'm just happy that DML is releasing new kits at a pretty darn frequent rate. More than can be said for some other companies.
Flame suit on.
Sure, I'd love to see some modern stuff, but I'm just happy that DML is releasing new kits at a pretty darn frequent rate. More than can be said for some other companies.
Flame suit on.
ShermiesRule
Joined: December 11, 2003
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Posted: Thursday, March 04, 2004 - 08:03 AM UTC
Both Academy and Dragon have Russian M4A2s. Is there anything different or unacceptable besides decals to make it a Western Europe M4A2? Something weird like a special piece of equipment or hull angle exclusive to Russians?
greatbrit
Joined: May 14, 2003
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Posted: Thursday, March 04, 2004 - 08:04 AM UTC
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Hmmm, another thread turned into a "look the world is against Allied vehicle modelers" thread.
Sure, I'd love to see some modern stuff, but I'm just happy that DML is releasing new kits at a pretty darn frequent rate. More than can be said for some other companies.
Flame suit on.
sorry, dont want to turn it into a flame war.
its just frustrating that dml are releasing kits of a vehicle tamiya have perfectly good kits for, when there are so many other vehicles, allied, modern etc that are ignored.
cheers
joe
210cav
Joined: February 05, 2002
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Posted: Thursday, March 04, 2004 - 08:30 AM UTC
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I was going to say, "Just more German crap", but then the M4A2 came up on the screen :-)
Jeff-- very nice kit. I got mine from Hobbylink Japan a few weeks ago. I think the total was something $32......not too bad.
DJ
generalzod
Joined: December 01, 2001
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Posted: Thursday, March 04, 2004 - 08:30 AM UTC
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Both Academy and Dragon have Russian M4A2s. Is there anything different or unacceptable besides decals to make it a Western Europe M4A2? Something weird like a special piece of equipment or hull angle exclusive to Russians?
As far as I know that type of A2 late hull wasn't used in Western Europe Either the 75mm or 76mm type That late A2 hull was used by the Russians both 75 and 76 or the Marines over in the Pacific-75mm type But I could be wrong #:-)
SEDimmick
Joined: March 15, 2002
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Posted: Thursday, March 04, 2004 - 08:43 AM UTC
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Hmmm, another thread turned into a "look the world is against Allied vehicle modelers" thread.
Sure, I'd love to see some modern stuff, but I'm just happy that DML is releasing new kits at a pretty darn frequent rate. More than can be said for some other companies.
Flame suit on.
Rumor has it that DML is going to be redoing their M1A1 into a M1A1 AIM.
Only thing dissapointing is that Tiger 2 has been already done by Tamiya, but is a given due to them doing the Porche turret verison
I'm holding off on the Academy M4A2(76) till I see the DML one since Academy kinda screwed up the angle on the rear hull, its not that big of a deal but if I dont have to worry about fixing it I'll get the DML kit instead, plus as of late Academy has been way overpriced...$45 bucks for the M36? #:-)
StukeSowle
Joined: November 08, 2002
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Posted: Thursday, March 04, 2004 - 09:13 AM UTC
I understand the frustration in seeing that there are now two King Tigers out there, but take a moment to look at it from DML's point of view.
There is still a large demand for King Tiger kits, probably a pretty good hunk of money goes to still buying the Tamiya kits (I'm sure somewhere some market research is going on). DML could release a kit that hasn't been done before and risk uncertain sales, or step up to the plate and challenge Tamiya for a share of the market KT market. They produce and accurate kit, with PE and indy track links for a cheaper price. They've now upped the ante on Tamiya.
I respect them for making this call, I think it's gutsy. I have the Tamiya KT kit, and probably won't even buy the DML kit, but I don't hold it against DML. The more money they make, the more kits they release, and hopefully we will all benefit from that.
Stuke
There is still a large demand for King Tiger kits, probably a pretty good hunk of money goes to still buying the Tamiya kits (I'm sure somewhere some market research is going on). DML could release a kit that hasn't been done before and risk uncertain sales, or step up to the plate and challenge Tamiya for a share of the market KT market. They produce and accurate kit, with PE and indy track links for a cheaper price. They've now upped the ante on Tamiya.
I respect them for making this call, I think it's gutsy. I have the Tamiya KT kit, and probably won't even buy the DML kit, but I don't hold it against DML. The more money they make, the more kits they release, and hopefully we will all benefit from that.
Stuke
Halfyank
Joined: February 01, 2003
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Posted: Thursday, March 04, 2004 - 09:20 AM UTC
I won't comment on the Allied, German, Modern question, but I will say this. At least DML is producing kits. That's certainly more than Tamiya can say lately.
Kencelot
Joined: December 27, 2001
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Posted: Thursday, March 04, 2004 - 10:01 AM UTC
I'm with Joe on this. Another Sherman is always welcome!
And with what Rodger said, "where's Tamiya"?
And with what Rodger said, "where's Tamiya"?
jejack2
Joined: April 09, 2002
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Posted: Thursday, March 04, 2004 - 10:02 AM UTC
Just my 2 pennies worth: Think of it this way, now you have a choice (King Tiger wise). If you don't wanna pay the $50 for the Tamiya version, and the DML is equal if not better?! Sounds like competition to me. Why did we need two Leopolds? But now we have a choice right! I, too, am glad to see DML putting out new stuff. I wish Tamiya would do something other than add a new sprue and re-release something. I go to my LHS and must see about 10 different versions (slight exaggeration) of Abrams kits (DML, Tamiya, Trumpeter, Hobbycraft), do we need that many?? I wish there were more WWII allied stuff around, but they have almost covered the majority of what we used (tank wise). Unfortunately you can only please some of the people some of the time, and can never please everyone all at one time. I think they are producing what is selling, I agree with the comment about risking an unsure sale on a new and unique kit, or make your own version of one that sells like the dickens. For instance the Tasca 'Luchs', looks cool, would love to have it, but not gonna spend $55 on a kit I haven't seen from a company that I haven't bought before. (I know don't knock it til you try it) I'm just happy all of these companies make kits at all, otherwise I would have a whole lot more money, and too much free time!! 
ShermiesRule
Joined: December 11, 2003
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Posted: Thursday, March 04, 2004 - 11:24 AM UTC
Is it possible Dragon is trying to kill Tamiya? By producing better kits than Tamiya equal or less price it would be difficult for Tamiya to move kits. Could they be intentionally targeting popular kits?
Jeepney
Joined: July 22, 2002
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Posted: Thursday, March 04, 2004 - 11:48 AM UTC
I hope DML fixed the problems on the Kettenkrad. The first version's fit was bad and there were some missing parts.
BTW, can't afford the Tamiya KT so the DML is very good news. Competition is good
BTW, can't afford the Tamiya KT so the DML is very good news. Competition is good
mlb63
Joined: October 22, 2003
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Posted: Thursday, March 04, 2004 - 03:02 PM UTC
i'm not going to get involved in the german,allied,modern arguement either.but the kettenkraftrad caught my attention.and yes at least dml is putting out new kits at the rate tamiya is going airfix will be putting out more new kits. 
yagdpanzer
Joined: August 21, 2002
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Posted: Thursday, March 04, 2004 - 03:58 PM UTC
I build Allied and Axis kits and IMHO Tamiya produce the most modler friendly kits. Good detail and fit right out of the box. 
DML are producing kits that are different versions than the Tamiya kits. As an example, the Tamiya StuG/StuH 111, G is an early, The DML StuH 111, G is a late.
My only problems with all the new kits being produced is:
1. Can I afford them
2. Will I be able to build half of them before I die.
Happy modeling to all.
DML are producing kits that are different versions than the Tamiya kits. As an example, the Tamiya StuG/StuH 111, G is an early, The DML StuH 111, G is a late.
My only problems with all the new kits being produced is:
1. Can I afford them
2. Will I be able to build half of them before I die.
Happy modeling to all.
hworth18
Joined: January 10, 2003
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Posted: Thursday, March 04, 2004 - 04:25 PM UTC
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Hmmm, another thread turned into a "look the world is against Allied vehicle modelers" thread.
Sure, I'd love to see some modern stuff, but I'm just happy that DML is releasing new kits at a pretty darn frequent rate. More than can be said for some other companies.
Flame suit on.
Woohoo!!!!!!
I for one AM happy to see more German armor.. More choices for me!!!
capnjock
Joined: May 19, 2003
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Posted: Thursday, March 04, 2004 - 04:57 PM UTC
I sort of agree with yagdpanzer except I will be dead before I get to even a 10th of the new stuff!
(might have something to do with a SLOW building time?)
capnjock
(might have something to do with a SLOW building time?)
capnjock
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