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Belgrade WAR Museum - reference pictures
Sensei
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Posted: Friday, March 05, 2004 - 05:31 AM UTC
Well, i walked through there yesterday and took some shots with my digital camera, it contains armored vehicles and cannons from WWII, unfortunately they are all re-painted in Yugoslavian army green and without any markings, but if u want to see some exterior details in real life its pretty okay, here are some sample pictures...












Whole gallery can be found on:

http://www.istoksistem.org/modeling/index.html

All pictures are in 640x480 pixels and re-sized so they can be viewed fast
Unfortunately vehicles are sealed so no enterior pics are possible, if anyone want some shots of whatever parts of theese vehicles pls contact me on email or pm and ill try to take them for u next time i go there (which is usually once a month)
also, any comments placed here would be most welcome

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Posted: Friday, March 05, 2004 - 06:07 AM UTC
Nice photos there Sensei! Thanks for posting them!!

At least there is a coat of paint on them, for the most part they are looking to be in really good shape! Even the rubber on the wheels and return rollers is still in pretty good shape!

Someone has done a great job of keeping those up!

Good to see that those rarities still survive! What kind of turret is that on the T-34? Locally produced? Never seen that before.

Thanks!
Sensei
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Posted: Friday, March 05, 2004 - 06:23 AM UTC
well, if u disregard the graffitti on most of thosse tanks/cannons, they are in pretty good shape...

about T-34 there are 2 of them in museum, most pics are from the one u asked about turret, answer is i dunno no one knows to tell me, except that its an early stage T-34 (i thought its a turret from IS-2 but i dont know if thats even possible?), the other one (two darker pics under the tree) is regular T-34-85 with standard turret i think.

there are much AT guns and smaller recoinssance tanks there so if anyone is interested in some particular piece i can take a look if they have them... also if anyone wants some macro shots please tell me...ill give it a try

one more thing... if anyone knows what type of tank is the last one in my gallery please inform me! (there is no name-plate on it )
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Posted: Friday, March 05, 2004 - 06:50 AM UTC
Thanks for the link Sensei,
Most of the armor looks to be in better shape than some of the stuff I saw at Aberdeen about 4 years ago. You are right about the graffiti. That's a shame...
Thanks again,
Shaun
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Posted: Friday, March 05, 2004 - 07:28 AM UTC
I think the turret was locally produced as a gesure to stalin saying yes we are communinst but you dont own us there was a little aricle no so long back in a modelling mag,
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Posted: Friday, March 05, 2004 - 08:02 AM UTC
Thanks for the link to these interesting pics!
Ciao
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Posted: Friday, March 05, 2004 - 08:26 AM UTC
Nice site - Thanks for the reference material!

Kencelot
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Posted: Friday, March 05, 2004 - 09:12 AM UTC
Thanks for the pics Sensei. I especially like the Stuart pics. Too bad you can't inside any of them.
Question: What is that German halftrack with the AT gun in it?
Marty
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Posted: Friday, March 05, 2004 - 11:44 AM UTC

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if anyone knows what type of tank is the last one in my gallery please inform me! (there is no name-plate on it )


This looks like a French WW1 tank. Renault perhaps? I am not at all familiar with WW1 armor but that's my guess.
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Posted: Friday, March 05, 2004 - 12:00 PM UTC
It appears to be the French Renault FT 17/18 light tank with the 37mm gun.
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Posted: Friday, March 05, 2004 - 12:09 PM UTC
That last one is definitely an FT17, don't know which variant though.
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Posted: Friday, March 05, 2004 - 06:41 PM UTC

Quoted Text

It appears to be the French Renault FT 17/18 light tank with the 37mm gun.



Tnx for this info, i suspected its a french wwi tank but couldnt proove it... anyhow.... since it is in a WWII musem maybe it was used in wwii also? this is a interesting thing to start a search about

tnx for all replyes guys, and as i said if anyone needs more pics of certain tank, just pm or email me

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Posted: Saturday, March 06, 2004 - 01:06 AM UTC
Hi All,
That weird-looking T-34 is one of about 10 prototypes designed and built in Rumania. It was supposed to be their own heavy tank, using locally produced parts. The whole thing collapsed, for reasons I can't remember.
Regards,
Georg
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Posted: Saturday, March 06, 2004 - 05:07 AM UTC
Wow, those are rare. Thanks for posting those. Thanks for your time.
Sensei
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Posted: Sunday, March 07, 2004 - 07:05 PM UTC

Quoted Text

Hi All,
That weird-looking T-34 is one of about 10 prototypes designed and built in Rumania. It was supposed to be their own heavy tank, using locally produced parts. The whole thing collapsed, for reasons I can't remember.
Regards,
Georg



Yup, i asked some questions arround, so with what i heard ur right, if anyone decides to do one of theese tell me so i get more pics of that hull


Mirko
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