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Armor and ground forces of the Axis forces during World War II.
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Panther G (late) roadwheels
Stormbringer
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Posted: Friday, March 05, 2004 - 11:48 PM UTC
Hi all
I'm a little confused here.I'm building a tamiya Panther G (late) with the intentions of painting it in Ambush camo.The kit box art shows the roadwheels as being painted in Ambush but the instructions show them as being dunkelgelb.Can anyone confirm which colours they were painted in please?
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Pete
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Posted: Friday, March 05, 2004 - 11:59 PM UTC
Hi Pete,
Best bet is to model from a 'photo. I've just looked in my copy of "Encyclopedia of German Tanks of World War Two" and there are pics of cammo Panthers with cammo wheels and plain wheels. So it could be either.
Could be that there's more than one option in the kit?
Longshanks
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Posted: Saturday, March 06, 2004 - 07:07 AM UTC
I remember doing the exact same kit as one of my first tanks..........

I did them plain...I found doing them in camo was too OTT for my tastes, But it's your model so do which you prefer.............
Monte
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Posted: Saturday, March 06, 2004 - 07:23 AM UTC
Remember one thing Storm. These tanks were painted out in the field by the crew so the paint scheme will vary. There reall is no way to say what is the correct way especially when it came to ambush schemes.
thebear
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Posted: Saturday, March 06, 2004 - 07:48 AM UTC
Sorry to dissagree with you Monte ,but by the time of the Ambush Scheme tanks were painted at the factories ...From what I have noticed I would add some camo to the wheels ,but don't bother with the spots ..I don't think they would have when that far ..with a bit of mud and dust over them they will look great..

Rick
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Posted: Saturday, March 06, 2004 - 04:38 PM UTC
I have seen pics with the wheels painted both ways.... So, I would say do what you want.. I personally like the wheels plain, but that's just my preference...
hworth18
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Posted: Saturday, March 06, 2004 - 04:43 PM UTC
Try this.. One of my favorite pics..

Biggles2
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Posted: Tuesday, March 09, 2004 - 03:08 PM UTC
I have to disagree with Bear about the tanks being factory Ambush painted. The paint jobs are way too varied both in styles and quality to be all factory-done. Maybe some were, but panzer crews still spray-painted camo jobs on their tanks in the field. Sometimes it looks like a stencil was used to paint on the Ambush spots, but most of the time they look like they were just dashed on hastily ( the Russians are coming!!).
thebear
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Posted: Wednesday, March 10, 2004 - 05:24 AM UTC
Biggles we are talking about the Ambush scheme right ...I too know that at first the tanks left the factories in just dark yellow ,but once they began the ambush schemes this was done in the factories.. Okay maybe some crews saw these new machines coming out of the factories and tried it in the field but ...99.9999% were factory issue.Even the Hetzers that were not built in Germany left the shops aready painted...They were gien a pattern to follow but does not mean that each vehicle was exactly the same..

Rick
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Posted: Wednesday, March 10, 2004 - 06:28 AM UTC

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I have to disagree with Bear about the tanks being factory Ambush painted. The paint jobs are way too varied both in styles and quality to be all factory-done. Maybe some were, but panzer crews still spray-painted camo jobs on their tanks in the field. Sometimes it looks like a stencil was used to paint on the Ambush spots, but most of the time they look like they were just dashed on hastily ( the Russians are coming!!).



I would say that many tanks WERE painted in the factory that way, BUT...... probably just as many were painted or repianted in the field in the "ambush scheme" also as the need required.. Unfortunately, without actual photographic proof, we will never know exactly how each tank was painted before it went into battle. So I would say both of you are right.. To a certain extent.. #:-)
Biggles2
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Posted: Wednesday, March 10, 2004 - 05:20 PM UTC
I will certainly agree concerning Hetzers. The pic of the Hetzer knocked out in a field somewhere in France in November '44 is definitely a 'pro' job. Looks like they used a stencil for the pattern.
Biggles2
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Posted: Wednesday, March 10, 2004 - 05:32 PM UTC
I just rembered a pic of a Sd Kfz 251 in ambush scheme. Now that one was not factory painted! That was probably the only 251 in that scheme.
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