From same chinese site
http://www.moxingfans.com/new/news/2017/1027/4205.html
AFV annouces
the doher
magach 6 bat
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laikneth
Joined: September 24, 2013
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Posted: Monday, October 30, 2017 - 07:38 PM UTC
SgtRam
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#197
Joined: March 06, 2011
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Posted: Monday, October 30, 2017 - 07:42 PM UTC
They announced the Doher a long time ago, are they finally getting ready to release it?????
Bravo1102
Joined: December 08, 2003
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Posted: Monday, October 30, 2017 - 07:53 PM UTC
An M54 five ton? Wow.
vettejack
Joined: November 23, 2012
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Posted: Monday, October 30, 2017 - 07:56 PM UTC
The 109 catches my eye...will have to take a look-see when released! 
GuyGos
Joined: April 08, 2013
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Posted: Monday, October 30, 2017 - 08:37 PM UTC
I've informed them about that 'Bat' should be 'Bet'. Hope they'll change it. Bat in Hebrew usually means 'Girl' 
Vodnik
Joined: March 26, 2003
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Posted: Monday, October 30, 2017 - 08:40 PM UTC
Quoted Text
The 109 catches my eye...will have to take a look-see when released!
But why they call it M109A2 when it is clearly M109A1..
Bravo1102
Joined: December 08, 2003
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Posted: Monday, October 30, 2017 - 10:30 PM UTC
Since AFV club just did an M113 and now has a M54 in the works, is it too much to hope that they'll do the Vietnam guntruck that had the M113 in the bed of a five ton truck?
namengr
Joined: September 01, 2014
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Posted: Monday, October 30, 2017 - 10:45 PM UTC
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Figure that would be a good use for those Tamiya 113s I've got stashed. WayneSince AFV club just did an M113 and now has a M54 in the works, is it too much to hope that they'll do the Vietnam guntruck that had the M113 in the bed of a five ton truck?
trickymissfit
Joined: October 03, 2007
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Posted: Tuesday, October 31, 2017 - 12:44 AM UTC
Quoted Text
Quoted TextThe 109 catches my eye...will have to take a look-see when released!
But why they call it M109A2 when it is clearly M109A1..
Their M54 kit has a slightly different bed than what was issued when I was there. not sure it's still not doable, but still a little different. Also an issue with the winch. Never saw anybody have one exactly like that one. Our winches were mounted on the front of the bumper with a lever on one side (maybe right side?)
Think AFV would have done better with a strait M109. Not an A anything. Also time for a new M110 / M107 / M578
gary
Bravo1102
Joined: December 08, 2003
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Posted: Tuesday, October 31, 2017 - 12:45 AM UTC
Quoted Text
Quoted TextFigure that would be a good use for those Tamiya 113s I've got stashed. WayneSince AFV club just did an M113 and now has a M54 in the works, is it too much to hope that they'll do the Vietnam guntruck that had the M113 in the bed of a five ton truck?
But the Tamiya have the suspension arms molded on the hull, whereas the new AFV club kit has the arms seperate with the holes for the torsion bars. The 113 in the back of the M54 had had the suspension arms and torsion bars pulled.
ironhull
Joined: November 23, 2013
KitMaker: 134 posts
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Posted: Tuesday, October 31, 2017 - 04:08 AM UTC
Quoted Text
Quoted TextQuoted TextThe 109 catches my eye...will have to take a look-see when released!
But why they call it M109A2 when it is clearly M109A1..
Their M54 kit has a slightly different bed than what was issued when I was there. not sure it's still not doable, but still a little different. Also an issue with the winch. Never saw anybody have one exactly like that one. Our winches were mounted on the front of the bumper with a lever on one side (maybe right side?)
Think AFV would have done better with a strait M109. Not an A anything. Also time for a new M110 / M107 / M578
gary
As far as I know M54 had two type of bed. The first one (as dipincted by AFV) had a front part with fixed side door and the other folding. The second one had fixed side door.
First type
http://www.dreamworkshobby.com/hobby/items/2388/h2.jpg
Second type
http://www.guntruck.com/Resources/Maverick1971a.jpeg
Winch seems to be correct. See at
https://armorama.kitmaker.net/forums/172196&page=1
Maybe yours had the cable tensioner.
Bye
m4sherman
Joined: January 18, 2006
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Posted: Tuesday, October 31, 2017 - 08:08 AM UTC
Great! A Magach from AFV. With luck the Urdan cupola will be nice. Now please do the M60.
Bravo1102
Joined: December 08, 2003
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Posted: Tuesday, October 31, 2017 - 12:45 PM UTC
Quoted Text
Quoted TextQuoted TextQuoted TextThe 109 catches my eye...will have to take a look-see when released!
But why they call it M109A2 when it is clearly M109A1..
Their M54 kit has a slightly different bed than what was issued when I was there. not sure it's still not doable, but still a little different. Also an issue with the winch. Never saw anybody have one exactly like that one. Our winches were mounted on the front of the bumper with a lever on one side (maybe right side?)
Think AFV would have done better with a strait M109. Not an A anything. Also time for a new M110 / M107 / M578
gary
As far as I know M54 had two type of bed. The first one (as dipincted by AFV) had a front part with fixed side door and the other folding. The second one had fixed side door.
First type
http://www.dreamworkshobby.com/hobby/items/2388/h2.jpg
Second type
http://www.guntruck.com/Resources/Maverick1971a.jpeg
Winch seems to be correct. See at
https://armorama.kitmaker.net/forums/172196&page=1
Maybe yours had the cable tensioner.
Bye
My unit had both variations battalion trains as well an ancient mogas powered 5
ton. This series of trucks were in inventory for a long time with numerous updates and refurbishing . The data plates I saw often extended all the way down the dashboard with all the rebuilds.
rfbaer
Joined: June 12, 2007
KitMaker: 1,866 posts
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Posted: Tuesday, October 31, 2017 - 07:34 PM UTC
Somebody needs to tell them to please use the T-142 tracks in the Magach, much more common.
thathaway3
Joined: September 10, 2004
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Posted: Wednesday, November 01, 2017 - 08:42 PM UTC
Quoted Text
But why they call it M109A2 when it is clearly M109A1..
I'm pretty sure it's not an A1. While the A1 replaced the shorter barreled M126 gun with the longer barreled M185, the A1 still had the opening in the top of the turret with the cover that raised up to allow the panoramic telescope to be extended above the top of the turret for laying the gun. This kit has the enclosed ballistic housing to protect the pantel which wasn't introduced until the A2 version. I was in a DS battalion in Germany from 1972-1975 and we replaced our base M109 short tubes with M109A1s in mid 1973 and they did NOT have the ballistic covers for the pantel and that meant that the pantel was still subject to getting wet when it rained or snowed. We still had not converted to A2s when I left the battalion in 1975.
trickymissfit
Joined: October 03, 2007
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Posted: Thursday, November 02, 2017 - 12:54 AM UTC
Quoted Text
Quoted TextQuoted TextQuoted TextQuoted TextThe 109 catches my eye...will have to take a look-see when released!
But why they call it M109A2 when it is clearly M109A1..
Their M54 kit has a slightly different bed than what was issued when I was there. not sure it's still not doable, but still a little different. Also an issue with the winch. Never saw anybody have one exactly like that one. Our winches were mounted on the front of the bumper with a lever on one side (maybe right side?)
Think AFV would have done better with a strait M109. Not an A anything. Also time for a new M110 / M107 / M578
gary
As far as I know M54 had two type of bed. The first one (as dipincted by AFV) had a front part with fixed side door and the other folding. The second one had fixed side door.
First type
http://www.dreamworkshobby.com/hobby/items/2388/h2.jpg
Second type
http://www.guntruck.com/Resources/Maverick1971a.jpeg
Winch seems to be correct. See at
https://armorama.kitmaker.net/forums/172196&page=1
Maybe yours had the cable tensioner.
Bye
My unit had both variations battalion trains as well an ancient mogas powered 5
ton. This series of trucks were in inventory for a long time with numerous updates and refurbishing . The data plates I saw often extended all the way down the dashboard with all the rebuilds.
it appears that my comment about the winch is incorrect, but also ours was a little different from the kit. The bumper was shaped differently than what AFV shows in their CAD image. Do not remember the auto tensioner on ours, but it might have been there. The trucks were new issue in the winter of 1966/67. Just never saw the style of bed AFV shows, but would love to have had that style.
Back to the winch a second or so. We always seemed to have more cable that space to put it back on the cable reel! So we'd simply wrap the cable around the bumper in a figure eight. I remember there being a lever on one side of the winch. Unlike most folks, we did use the winch a little bit; most pulling out a stuck bull dozer or truck (mud).
That dozer we used to pull out was a Sea Bee piece of equipment. Little bitty thing that was about the size of a VW Beetle. Wish somebody would kit one of them as they were fairly common.
gary
Vodnik
Joined: March 26, 2003
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Posted: Thursday, November 02, 2017 - 01:02 AM UTC
Quoted Text
I'm pretty sure it's not an A1. While the A1 replaced the shorter barreled M126 gun with the longer barreled M185, the A1 still had the opening in the top of the turret with the cover that raised up to allow the panoramic telescope to be extended above the top of the turret for laying the gun.
Israelis replaced that raised cover with armored housing from A2 version, but it doesn't make it A2. What identifies this kit as A1 based, not A2, is a short turret. The A2 had long turrets - with bustle ammo storage extension. Apparently Israelis modernized their A1s, but did not add the extended bustle ammo storage.
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